Petition - please sign

Xh2oX

Just to add my two pence worth!!!

I was a student nurse trained the "old way" (the best way imo!) I had to work a 37 and half hour week earlies lates and nights and also keep up with all the studies! You were lucky to leave on time as well at the end of shifts. I was paid around 3500 a year but out of that i had to pay for accommodation and also poll tax! We did not get the perks of being classed as students like they do now. No student cards for us! When pk2 came in I had qualified and looking at what they had to do workwise on the wards was laughable to what old style students did - controversal to say i know - but i know what i saw. Might be different now but to not be hands on is not how to learn!

Dont get me wrong i know nurses work very hard for the money they earn and i am in no way knocking us but i do think that the training needs to be looked at again.
I have fond memories of my training days and living in fear of matrons and nurse managers!!!!!

ballyblack

quote;
I'm not drunk......I'm just tired from staying up all night drinking!

maybe drop this?

You deserve you to be taken more seriously!

everythingblogcast

Robothell wrote:

Sorry, I thought I made that clear in one of my previous posts......I think education should be free for all......I didn't pay fees for my course and to be honest, couldn't have afforded Uni otherwise, I didn't qualify for any other type of grant and so funded my course with part time jobs and loans.

I just thought the nursing one was a good starting point.....

Dont get me wrong we need doctors and nurses before others but if the goverment just goes to the nurses with the money then everyone will follow just for the money. And I do agree to all levels of education should be free because why should a student from a family that works well have to pay fully and a student from a family that gets the money from the state gets it free and gets extra money.

Robothell

ballyblack wrote:

quote;
I'm not drunk......I'm just tired from staying up all night drinking!

maybe drop this?

You deserve you to be taken more seriously!

I had a different signature but removed it at another MSEer's request......I'm happy with my choice, it reflects my sense of humour rather than my past medical history!

Colin_Kee

Robothell wrote:

To address the points above.

2. I completely agree that the amount of waste in the NHS is ridiculous.....the NHS cannot sustain this forever. The amount of bureaucracy is ridiculous and there are so many different managers that most people don't know what they all do. I personally don't think that taxes should be raised to pay for this.....rather the taxes we pay should be applied more efficiently. I would rather my taxes put into health and education rather than squandered on an oil-feud.

Don't get me started on Bureaucracy & Red Tape. The Servers at MSE would not be big enough to hold all that I think of all that cr*p. It is a very very sorry state of affairs that our society has got into this way of basically being nannied, "you can do this but can't do that because it's not in your job escription" For god sake, it's changing a light bulb (Just an example) As for you haning that Blackboard, That maintenance guy wanted a good slap... rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,,, that sort of stupidity really does annoy me...

I think we should start a petition to " Abolish Quango's & Bureaucracy in the Public sector " Maybe then as taxpayers we'd get better value for money & Doctors & Nurses could get a decent pay rise if required...

Robothell

Colin_Kee wrote:

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I think we should start a petition to " Abolish Quango's & Bureaucracy in the Public sector " Maybe then as taxpayers we'd get better value for money......

Now there's a plan if ever I heard one!!!

PandaPants_2

My fiance is a student mental health nurse at Queens and he manages to have a part-time job while he is in uni and doesnt work when he's on placement. Admittedly he is regularly coming in from work at 2.30am and going back to uni at 7.30am but he does it.

I agree nurses should have a pay rise, they do a horrifically hard job under bad conditions but they do get paid for learning. It works out less than £2 an hour but its better than nothing.

wifeforlife

PandaPants wrote:

I agree nurses should have a pay rise, they do a horrifically hard job under bad conditions but they do get paid for learning. It works out less than £2 an hour but its better than nothing.

I think you have misunderstood, it's not regarding the wages it's regarding the amount of a bursary they get. Currently it's £6000 and they want £10,000.

Cath

leftieM

The OP said they are looking for an extra 10k. So 16k tax free, equivalent to about 23k salary a year.

wifeforlife

Thats mental, thats nearly 4 times my part time wages!!!! And they are students!

Cath