Am I allowed to drive??

rotoguys

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

In that case you will need this URL .. .. when completed and signed you send it here :

Post to :

Drivers Medical Group
DVLA
Swansea
SA99 1TU

Additionally depending on the length of time you have been both driving a vehicle and uninsured before informing the relevant authorities / GP / Swansea / Insurers / etc, you may wish to take advice.

If you have just 'developed the medical condition' that disbars you in the last day or so and you inform on yourself immediately the police may take no action.

That is not what the DVLA website says you have to do.
You have me confused now. Am we supposed to fill in that form and send it to the DVLA? What happens next? Does the DVLA get in touch with us to find out why we are returning the licences? And give us the information about when we could ask for them back?

As for that link to the Police, I can't see how that is relevant. I personally know the local PCSO that is mentioned for my area, do we have a word with her?

No we didn't know that we had to do all of this. My wife started with her problems back in 2000 and mine started well some of them started 18 years ago.

As for the insurance we have a motability car.

We can't say they just happened overnight as that would be telling lies.

I think the best thing is have a word with the PCSO lass tomorrow and see what she says.

Richie-from-the-Boro

What does the DVLA website say you have to do for your condition ? The 'form' is different for each condition and each person may have one or more / multiple conditions. Nothing at all 'may' happen, or somewhere from a temporary restriction to an outright withdrawal of the right to drive may be imposed .. .. what's at issue is :

- you
- must
- inform

The law as it stands is you are required to inform DVLA & your insurers if you think you have 'any condition that may affect your ability to drive safely'. Ignorance of the law as well you know is no defence. Ignorance of the law when, having killed 6 children on their way home from school will not stand even the shallowest scrutiny.

- if your condition is in the menu of conditions then you must inform DVLA, and if DVLA impose a restriction ;
- you must then inform inform your insurer, Motability

If you inform neither DVLA nor Motability and you have an accident, you will be breaking the law and variously driving without a valid licence and uninsured for both yourself and insurance payout for anyone you damage or kill.

Yes its one more clear wilful abdication of responsibilities, but do speak to the PCSO lass tomorrow, or the postman, or maybe the landlord in the local pub.

rotoguys

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

What does the DVLA website say you have to do for your condition ? The 'form' is different for each condition and each person may have one or more / multiple conditions. Nothing at all 'may' happen, or somewhere from a temporary restriction to an outright withdrawal of the right to drive may be imposed .. .. what's at issue is :

- you
- must
- inform

The law as it stands is you are required to inform DVLA & your insurers if you think you have 'any condition that may affect your ability to drive safely'. Ignorance of the law as well you know is no defence. Ignorance of the law when, having killed 6 children on their way home from school will not stand even the shallowest scrutiny.

- if your condition is in the menu of conditions then you must inform DVLA, and if DVLA impose a restriction ;
- you must then inform inform your insurer, Motability

If you inform neither DVLA nor Motability and you have an accident, you will be breaking the law and variously driving without a valid licence and uninsured for both yourself and insurance payout for anyone you damage or kill.

Yes its one more clear wilful abdication of responsibilities, but do speak to the PCSO lass tomorrow, or the postman, or maybe the landlord in the local pub.

Yes I gather that, but the website does not tell us to surrender our licences it just says to tell them what the conditions are. That is a bit different to what you have said when you sent that copy of that form. The way you have put it is that we have to surrender our licences forthwith. Why then did you send a copy of that form? You have caused great confusion.

Secondly, why should we speak to the postman or the landlord of our local pub? What have they got to do with it?

Quite honestlly I just don't understand your comments or your reason for telling them to me.

Richie-from-the-Boro

Because you yourself said """I shouldn't be driving anything - not even a disability scooter!""" now if you """shouldn't be driving anything - not even a disability scooter!""" its a self evident fact that you should voluntarily surrender until a formal decision is made on you fitness to drive and your insurability.

The postman, policeman, pub landlord, boy scout, bloke in the post office queue ? Here, rather than follow your Governments advice and the law of the land, you chose to wilfully circumnavigate the clear and unambiguous requirements by deliberately asking someone who would not know the answer to your question.

The way it works is you fill in the form I referred you to, and send it to the DVLA, they gather information from you / your doctor / consultant / arrange for you to be examined by a locally appointed medical officer or local consultant or specialist / and / or ask you to undergo a driving assessment, eyesight or driving test.

They then decide if :

You keep your licence / are issued with a short term licence / date of review, if they feel your medical condition can improve, or if its determined it won't improve, or that you fall into the legislated revocation group. If you fit into one of the revocation groups, they revoke your licence / tell you why / tell you if you can ever reapply / and send you details on how you can appeal to a Magistrates Court [England or Wales]

Then there is the issue of driving whilst uninsured, and failure to inform, any change whatsoever to the status of your driving licence by DVLA, means your insurer should immediately be informed, failure to do so invalidates your insurance.

rotoguys

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

Because you yourself said """I shouldn't be driving anything - not even a disability scooter!""" now if you """shouldn't be driving anything - not even a disability scooter!""" its a self evident fact that you should voluntarily surrender until a formal decision is made on you fitness to drive and your insurability.

The postman, policeman, pub landlord, boy scout, bloke in the post office queue ? Here, rather than follow your Governments advice and the law of the land, you chose to wilfully circumnavigate the clear and unambiguous requirements by deliberately asking someone who would not know the answer to your question.

The way it works is you fill in the form I referred you to, and send it to the DVLA, they gather information from you / your doctor / consultant / arrange for you to be examined by a locally appointed medical officer or local consultant or specialist / and / or ask you to undergo a driving assessment, eyesight or driving test.

They then decide if :

You keep your licence / are issued with a short term licence / date of review, if they feel your medical condition can improve, or if its determined it won't improve, or that you fall into the legislated revocation group. If you fit into one of the revocation groups, they revoke your licence / tell you why / tell you if you can ever reapply / and send you details on how you can appeal to a Magistrates Court [England or Wales]

Then there is the issue of driving whilst uninsured, and failure to inform, any change whatsoever to the status of your driving licence by DVLA, means your insurer should immediately be informed, failure to do so invalidates your insurance.

Thanks for making it clearer for me.
That form you sent me doesn't ask for details of who our GP or Consultants are. I suppose that they would write and ask?

Yes some of the conditions that we have do in fact say that without a medical report we should not be driving.

Any idea what would happen to the Motability car, as the only insured drivers are my wife and I? Our children and anybody we could call on live beyond the 5 mile limit. I had this trouble when I got the car, they wouldn't put one of my daughters' on it.

It's a minefield especially when there are multiple conditions (complications) that each one has a different condition of driving attached to it.

PasturesNew

Stephen Fry is bi-polar and did a huge TV programme driving a London black cab all over the US. Everybody's different and any condition can present itself differently in everybody.

Richie-from-the-Boro

PasturesNew wrote: »

Stephen Fry is bi-polar and did a huge TV programme driving a London black cab all over the US. Everybody's different and any condition can present itself differently in everybody.

- agreed, last time I looked he had 11 points, just one short of an outright ban
- I do wonder if ' non-celeb ' you or I would arrive just one short and be allowed to continue