Greece...

Thrugelmir

Graham_Devon wrote: »

While Greece is, ultimately right here, it's digging up some history we don't want dug up and will, ultimately, incite hatred.

It's just getting silly.

The history is very real. Just like the IRA which we conveniently like to brush under the carpet. Only requires a spark to reignite the past.

worldtraveller

If Greece were to leave the euro zone, Spain and Italy would also end up quitting the common currency bloc, Greek Defense Minister Panos Kammenos told German newspaper Bild in an interview to be published on Saturday.

“If Greece explodes, Spain and Italy will be next and then at some point, Germany. We therefore need to find a way within the euro zone, but this way cannot be that the Greeks keep on having to pay,” he said, according to an advance extract of the interview.

He also said Greece did not need a third bailout but rather “a haircut like the one Germany also got in 1953 at the London debt conference.”

Reuters

A haircut needed?! Yeah!! A No.1, repeated regularly, ad infinitum! :wall:

mystic_trev

Imagine if you're one of those many Greeks who are suffering?

http://blogs.wsj.com/brussels/2015/03/13/greeces-yanis-varoufakis-paris-match-photoshoot-twitter-reacts/

vivatifosi

mystic_trev wrote: »

Imagine if you're one of those many Greeks who are suffering?

http://blogs.wsj.com/brussels/2015/03/13/greeces-yanis-varoufakis-paris-match-photoshoot-twitter-reacts/

Next you'll be telling me that he has two kitchens.

mystic_trev

vivatifosi wrote: »

Next you'll be telling me that he has two kitchens.

Both full of Bosch appliances no doubt! :rotfl:

mystic_trev

"I will repeat to him what I’ve already told him twice: Greece must undertake the necessary reforms, Greece must ensure that the commitments it made to the Eurogroup in 2012 and more recently are followed up on," European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker told France's Europe 1 radio.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel delivered the same message in a speech to parliament ahead of the late-night Brussels talks and a crucial visit by Tsipras to Berlin next Monday, saying the crisis could only be overcome if Greece stuck to agreements.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/19/us-eurozone-greece-idUSKBN0MF0WY20150319

Loughton_Monkey

vivatifosi wrote: »

Next you'll be telling me that he has two kitchens.

I just loved Cameron's comment yesterday about Miliband being the only leader of the opposition who literally doesn't know where his next meal is coming from.

Conrad

People on the left arguing Greece ought to be let off it's debts and then in the next breath moaning that pension annuity returns are too low. They don't seem to realise annuity income is largely interest on loans to Governments and that any write down of debt has an effect on annuity income.


These same people also want corporations making less profit, paying more tax and higher wages, but once again this would cause pension incomes to be less as company dividends fall, and these very same people would then moan about their lessor performing pensions and annuities.


It troubles me that the public are so ignorant when it comes to joining the dots.

purch

Conrad wrote: »

It troubles me that the public are so ignorant.

And then they come and post on this forum :eek:

antrobus

Various sources are reporting the story that the IMF have now pronounced that Greece is the "most unhelpful country" they have ever had to deal with in their 70 year history.

Although officially the IMF are denying that they ever said any such thing.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-18/imf-said-to-consider-greece-most-unhelpful-client-ever