Greece...

Cyberman60

Graham_Devon wrote: »

That was signed under a previous government.

It may have passed you by, but the Greeks have recently elected a new government. One which their primary aim was to revert the previous deals.

I think you mean 'renege' rather than 'revert' .

Graham_Devon

mystic_trev wrote: »

What a joke! If true the Greek Public won't like that.

It appears untrue. Some of the German media are hitting the Greeks hard today. Bit of propoganda going on to whip up anger in Germany towards the Greeks....which seems unfortunate.

Graham_Devon

Seems it's gone down to the wire, and they now appear to have done a bit more pretending and extending to get Greece though the next few weeks / months with these endless talks continuing in the meantime.

Not absolutely official yet, mind.

So see you on the same thread in a few weeks time to discuss the exact same issue

wymondham

I wish they'd sort it out once and for all. The new way seems to be fudge and return to later!

mystic_trev

Graham_Devon wrote: »

It appears untrue. Some of the German media are hitting the Greeks hard today. Bit of propoganda going on to whip up anger in Germany towards the Greeks....which seems unfortunate.

Agreed. Thanks.

Graham_Devon

LOL tweets from Peston suggest the whole thing is just getting utterly boring. Suggests his colleagues are so bored of the whole thing they are playing games on their phones.

Another tweets that it's blatantly obvious this whole game of pretence will go on for months if not years. Can he go home yet as he'll be back doing the same thing all over again in the next few weeks.

From Robert Peston

I see my Brussels colleagues are so close to the edge that they've started playing #EurogroupMovies. Jesus

Which of us unimaginative hacks will be the first to talk of cans, roads and kicking? Whoops. #Greece #Eurogroup

Oh my god #EurogroupMovies is trending. The whole world must be close to losing the will to live

OK. I give in. The Long Not-Very-Good Friday. #EurogroupMovies

One of his colleages suggests it's not all bad, he can simply cut and paste any one of his reports on the Greece / EU bailout situation from the last 4 years and it will still be up to date

mystic_trev

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Can he go home yet as he'll be back doing the same thing all over again in the next few weeks.

Four months - apparently, as a 'deal' has been done. How much longer can this 'kicking the can down the road' problem with Greece last?

Graham_Devon

mystic_trev wrote: »

Four months - apparently, as a 'deal' has been done. How much longer can this 'kicking the can down the road' problem with Greece last?

The four months is the extension, to give them time to work out how they go forward. So there will be, presumably, more of the same over the next few weeks. More meetings, more posturing and then another extension in four months time.

Thing is, if the reports from the guardian are correct, no one has come out of this happy.

The greeks feel let down by the "politically poisonous" concessions the greek government have made. Meanwhile, the Germans are hacked off that they have just thrown even more good money after bad.

The Eurocrats of course find all this extremely positive as they "now have the chance" to work with the Greeks to get them back on track.... "now have the chance" is laughable.... what, they never had a chance over the last few years!?

Donnakou

Such chaos, after listening to friends who are living day to day with the uncertainty of whether they will wake up in the morning and find that the little money they have in the bank will still be there and hasnt disappeared with their Greek bank ... it is a little insensitive to assume it is all the fault of the Greeks for what is happening. I lived in Greece for 15 years and my daughters' father is Greek, they havent seen him for a few years due to the austerity and loss of livelihood for many Greeks.. his small transport business also folding. The Union encouraged Greece to enter the euro and it wasnt affordable, the price was too high!! Is it not the same with a lot of lenders ... Wonga springs to mind! Great marketing, so simple, sign on the dotted line and money into your account, but no affordability checks in place. The regular Greek on the street trusted the European Union that this was a good thing, how WRONG ! Now the Germans are holding the purse strings again, some older Greeks remember similar analogies from the 2nd world war .. many things were taken then... and they also remember they wrote off the German debt to Europe!

Aberdeenangarse

Donnakou wrote: »

Such chaos, after listening to friends who are living day to day with the uncertainty of whether they will wake up in the morning and find that the little money they have in the bank will still be there and hasnt disappeared with their Greek bank ... it is a little insensitive to assume it is all the fault of the Greeks for what is happening. I lived in Greece for 15 years and my daughters' father is Greek, they havent seen him for a few years due to the austerity and loss of livelihood for many Greeks.. his small transport business also folding. The Union encouraged Greece to enter the euro and it wasnt affordable, the price was too high!! Is it not the same with a lot of lenders ... Wonga springs to mind! Great marketing, so simple, sign on the dotted line and money into your account, but no affordability checks in place. The regular Greek on the street trusted the European Union that this was a good thing, how WRONG ! Now the Germans are holding the purse strings again, some older Greeks remember similar analogies from the 2nd world war .. many things were taken then... and they also remember they wrote off the German debt to Europe!

What a load of crap. The Greeks are and were totally fec less.They wanted to join the Euro at any cost, so fiddled the books. They were a third World Country who thought they could play with the big boys. Totally corrupt and unable to pay their bills, they think they can keep coming back to the begging bowl in the hope the rest of us will bail them out.Hopefully they'll soon be shown the back door.