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brother rejected by army-help please

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  • gemmaw
    gemmaw Posts: 17 Forumite
    Good luck, keep us posted on how he gets on x
  • geoffky
    geoffky Posts: 6,835 Forumite
    Good on the armys part... I worked with far too many sociopaths that should never of been in the army and were just bullies..I am relieved that they are weeding out possible problems before they happen. I am not saying your brother is or would be a bully but the army have found something they do not like...
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  • Esoog
    Esoog Posts: 1,489 Forumite
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    geoffky wrote: »
    Good on the armys part... I worked with far too many sociopaths that should never of been in the army and were just bullies..I am relieved that they are weeding out possible problems before they happen. I am not saying your brother is or would be a bully but the army have found something they do not like...

    That's what the appeal process is for I suppose; the list of medical exclusions is a blanket to deny entry to people with impractical ailments and what not; as well as those that really shouldn't be in the Army. But if you can prove that actually you're not a risk or such like and you're willing to put the time and effort into it then it can work out for you.
  • Katgrit
    Katgrit Posts: 555 Forumite
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    the army have found something they do not like...
    Isn't that most likely to be the INCORRECT INFORMATION ON HIS FILE?

    Don't people read replies before they post?
  • gibd79
    gibd79 Posts: 6 Forumite
    hey, im currently a serving nco based in Glencorse,i would'nt recommend the TA route unless it was the last straw,We have full time reservists and full time TA serving with us and the army will in no way renew or change the contracts to give them regular soldier status.We have jocks served less than 3yrs in our camp being offered the redundancy packages,messing with contracts just now will be a long and drawn out process.
  • Esoog
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    gibd79 wrote: »
    hey, im currently a serving nco based in Glencorse,i would'nt recommend the TA route unless it was the last straw,We have full time reservists and full time TA serving with us and the army will in no way renew or change the contracts to give them regular soldier status.We have jocks served less than 3yrs in our camp being offered the redundancy packages,messing with contracts just now will be a long and drawn out process.

    Not always, depends on the Corps and what not. I have a mate that went straight from TA SPS to Regular SPS in a two month period not so long ago. But your point is a still a valid one; being in the TA is not a guarantee of entry into the Regs.
    The TA isn't a definite way in but worth a try, when we get borderling people in a letter of recommendation from your GP in psychiatric/mental illness cases often is enough to persuade

    I think this comes down to the fact that for an AFCO an applicant is just an applicant, but a TA applicant is a face; they have regular contact with the PSAO/Adjt/Chief etc and if they make a good impression then the unit are more likely to put together a strong appeal and to support it. Whereas for a regular recruiter someone else will be along in two minutes to apply so supporting applicants that are rejected initially isn't of so much "importance" for want of a better word.
  • jillymit
    jillymit Posts: 572 Forumite
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    I've nothing of any help to offer I'm afraid but wanted to wish your brother good luck in his appeal and (hopefully) in his chosen career.
  • peteuk
    peteuk Posts: 1,995 Forumite
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    One of the problems might be that whilst the Armed Services are trying to save money they are only going to take the cream of the crop. So if they are close to the recruitment goal, and have two guys for one spot they will take the one with no DSH history.

    It doesnt make it right I know, but thats life I am afraid!
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  • gt568
    gt568 Posts: 2,535 Forumite
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    peteuk wrote: »
    One of the problems might be that whilst the Armed Services are trying to save money they are only going to take the cream of the crop. So if they are close to the recruitment goal, and have two guys for one spot they will take the one with no DSH history.

    It doesnt make it right I know, but thats life I am afraid!

    Bang on. Having insode knowledge of the recruiting process, I can say for certain that we won't be taking any borderline mentals when there are a 100 medically perfect applicants.

    Harsh world I'm afraid. Rather than clutching at straws it may be better for your brother to start looking at other options.
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  • cupkate
    cupkate Posts: 47 Forumite
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    Thanks everyone. Honestly-he is 100% fit. He's not "borderline". He had a playground incident years ago as a small boy that's been blown out of proportion. It's something that's probably happened to most boys, and some girls, at some point in their school life and no-one pays much attention to it. He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and some "do-gooder" got wind of it.
    He's written his appeal and sent it off so we'll see how he gets on. I can really understand why you wouldn't want to serve with someone with "mental" problems- neither would I!
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