No tax & insurance

john0612

Stupidly i left these to expire on a vehicle i had sitting on the road , police chapped the door the door and told me i'd be reported .

got my court date in but it says to fill in and return if i plead guilty (which i will )
Do i still need to go to court then ? Or will it be dealt with out of court?

What will be the punishment?

fine & points i assume ?

i already have 3 points so i'm a bit worried it might take me over the 12 point mark.

Sgt_Pepper_2

Expect 6 points for the no insurance and a fine for both.

shaun_from_Africa

You won't get any points for the tax, but no insurance will probably be 6 points (although it can be as high as 8), and there will be a fine for each offence.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069870

Russ66

Sil was done for this @ Christmas. No points for either offence (as not driving) and total fine for both offences was £80.

Trebor16

The wording of section 143 of the Road Traffic Act is that "a person must not use a motor vehicle on a road". Have you actually been summonsed for any offences relating to no insurance? If so, what offences and what act and section is on the summons?

john0612

it's down as 144a, 144A.Offence of keeping vehicle which does not meet insurance requirements

i wasn't been driven , just sitting in the street .

john0612

Russ66 wrote: »

Sil was done for this @ Christmas. No points for either offence (as not driving) and total fine for both offences was £80.

the gods would be looking down if i get that.

john0612

do i still need to go to court on said date when i send it back pleading guilty though ?

i've never been in trouble in my life, so i've no idea how the courts work.

Trebor16

john0612 wrote: »

it's down as 144a, 144A.Offence of keeping vehicle which does not meet insurance requirements

i wasn't been driven , just sitting in the street .

That makes it a bit clearer. It looks like you have fallen foul of the continuous insurance requirement (but I stand to be corrected), where you either insure the vehicle or declare it SORN (for which it has to be kept off a public road). I'm not sure of the penalties for this but I'm sure someone will be able to provide that information.

Trebor16

john0612 wrote: »

do i still need to go to court on said date when i send it back pleading guilty though ?

i've never been in trouble in my life, so i've no idea how the courts work.

If you are pleading guilty in writing, then no. Make sure you fill out the form detailing your means though.

Yorkie1

Trebor16 wrote: »

I'm not sure of the penalties for this but I'm sure someone will be able to provide that information.

If it's at court, rather than a fixed penalty, the maximum fine for keeping an uninsured vehicle is one of £1000 (level 3). No penalty points.