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22 year average wait for FTB's

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  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    The article is using the UK average.

    With any average, you will always be able to find something under it. Which is what you have just done.

    But every house in Hull will be under the average UK price.

    Median wage for all in Hull is £16k with 10% deposit only 2.7x mortgage required for house linked to.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    Median wage for all in Hull is £16k with 10% deposit only 2.7x mortgage required for house linked to.

    Is there something wrong with Hull?
  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    Is there something wrong with Hull?

    Never been there but I believe it smells a bit.
  • Derivative
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    The article is using the UK average.

    With any average, you will always be able to find something under it. Which is what you have just done.

    But every house in Hull will be under the average UK price.

    Yes, but my point is that not only is it under the average, it is drastically so.

    Hull is not an isolated example.
    I think that trying to buy a home in the South East on a 'median' wage is rather daft.

    Is there something 'wrong' with Hull? Yes - median wage there is far lower than in the SE. But house prices are not being skewed upwards by the influence of the M25 area or other huge cities.
    Median wage for all in Hull is £16k with 10% deposit only 2.7x mortgage required for house linked to.
    The house I linked to is not even the cheapest on Rightmove. If you look for a bit, you can find 35-40k. On £16k you could save that amount in 22 years and buy outright.
    Is there something wrong with Hull?
    It's basically a dead end town. But you're within commuting distance of say, York.
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  • robmatic
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    flecker wrote: »
    I'd hope that someone on 3x median income could buy with a 10% deposit and a 3.5x income.

    My borough's Richmondshire in North Yorks. I was going by these figures:

    http://harrogate-news.co.uk/2011/11/06/north-yorkshire-families-warned-looming-housing-crisis/

    Richmondshire includes a large swathe of a National Park. It's a great example of a popular tourist/retirement area where local people employed in low earning sectors like agriculture or retail will struggle to buy, a bit like Devon. It's not terribly representative of the country or even the North.
  • yertiz_2
    yertiz_2 Posts: 252 Forumite
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    Percy1983 wrote: »
    Self entitled pity? I haven't expected anything to be given to me and worked hard for what I have.

    To be honest by the age of 29 I will be married have a home, be a qualified accountant and own my own business.

    + I have never been banned form the MSE forums... ;)

    Hows your life?



    Don't worry I will pay back all the money its cost to bring me up, of course I won't forget to invoice my own children of course... oh wait.

    I do feel kind of bad as my parents will have LESS money when I move out, but hey I can't keep them forever.

    Well done Percy 1983 and very best wishes for the future, you deserve it :beer:
  • jimpix12
    jimpix12 Posts: 1,095 Forumite
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    Graham, your thread title is false..... Again.

    It's not a 22 year average wait for FTB's.

    It's a 22 year wait for low earners.

    Graham has about as much right to mislead on this, as you do in your endless threads about "house prices" going up according to a bank or building society and then packaged up as gospel and fact.
    "The only man who makes money from a gold rush is the one selling the shovels..."
  • Percy1983
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    yertiz wrote: »
    Well done Percy 1983 and very best wishes for the future, you deserve it :beer:
    Thank you very much, glad to see some sense on here.

    It does seem I am slated if I do nothing and moan about the situation and slated if I do something about it and do well for myself.

    It reminds me of a conversation on here a while, I was a man baby for staying at home while getting further qualifications and saving a house deposit, yet if I moved out and started renting I would have been classed as an idiot for paying a landlords mortgage.

    Damned if I do, Damned if I don't. :rotfl:

    Good job I am a happy person :D
    Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
    Quit day job to run 3 businesses 08/02/2017
    Started third business 25/06/2016
    Son born 13/09/2015
    Started a second business 03/08/2013
    Officially the owner of my own business since 13/01/2012
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    edited 25 January 2012 at 12:35PM
    Percy1983 wrote: »
    Thank you very much, glad to see some sense on here.

    It does seem I am slated if I do nothing and moan about the situation and slated if I do something about it and do well for myself.

    It reminds me of a conversation on here a while, I was a man baby for staying at home while getting further qualifications and saving a house deposit, yet if I moved out and started renting I would have been classed as an idiot for paying a landlords mortgage.

    Damned if I do, Damned if I don't. :rotfl:

    Good job I am a happy person :D

    Well, it's not too bad.

    At least the upgrade to being a shallow moron for buying a house with a spare bedroom was a free courtesy upgrade :D

    If you were just 20 years older, buying a house with an extra bedroom would have been the right thing to do. Even better if you have 3 bedrooms spare. Afterall, you deserve it, you worked for it. But as you are in your 20's, sorry....moron.
  • Percy1983
    Percy1983 Posts: 5,244 Forumite
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    I really am a disgrace aren't I, my life so far is just baby > man-baby > shallow moron, I really haven't amounted to much.

    Sorry I forgot I don't deserve to buy a bigger house because I am still young and have worked since leaving school.

    How silly of me to plan for future family expansion now at the age of 28, I really must be a moran.

    :D
    Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
    Quit day job to run 3 businesses 08/02/2017
    Started third business 25/06/2016
    Son born 13/09/2015
    Started a second business 03/08/2013
    Officially the owner of my own business since 13/01/2012
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