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HMRC | First time Form Filler | Presume they are always right?

bobsy31
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edited 22 January 2012 at 4:52PM in Cutting tax
Hi there

Hoping people on this forum can offer their views.

In December I got my first ever letter from HMRC asking me to fill out a Tax Return for 2010-2011, which I have done today.

I am employed by a company, paid basic salary and then bonuses on top. I don;t have another job, and am not subscribed to the company pension, healthplan.

I think I have filled out everything as I should, anyway it turns out that they want me to pay them just under 3k that I 'owe' - ouch!
I have some queries which I hope people can share their views on:

- how can my employer have not taken the right tax at source, meaning I have this amount to pay out of the blue?
- As it is my first form I am wondering if I have filled it right? I went off my p60 which shows what I earnt and the tax I paid. Most other bits of the form I left blank
- There was no place to add my NI contributions on the form - is that right?
- I am very new to this, in someone;s experience what bits of the form if filled out as they should would reduce the amount that I owe. I'm not for one secodn suggesting putting somethign in there that is not corect, it;s just I may have overlooked it.

- where/who could I get advice on whether I have filled the form in correctly? Approximately what is the cost of this?

Many Thanks
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  • BoGoF
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    If your only income was PAYE then let us know (from your P60), taxable pay, tax paid and tax code operated.
  • dori2o
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    Without looking at the figures you have put on the form we cannot make an assumption as to why you have - according to the assessment- underpaid.

    PLease provide this information.
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  • bobsy31
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    P60 shows following:

    Total Pay for year: 123437
    Tax Deducted: 39399

    Final Tax code: 623L

    Not sure if this helps but I have checked one of my pay slips for this tax year and it is 723L
  • BoGoF
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    bobsy31 wrote: »
    P60 shows following:

    Total Pay for year: 123437
    Tax Deducted: 39399

    Final Tax code: 623L

    Not sure if this helps but I have checked one of my pay slips for this tax year and it is 723L

    If you earn over £100,000 then you start to lose your entitlement to personal allowances, on your sort of income you will not be entitled to any tax free allowance for 2010-11 so that is why you are underpaid. Does your calculation shown any personal allowance.

    Similarly for this year, if you are on the same sort of income you will be underpaid.
  • BoGoF
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    edited 8 August 2024 at 1:41PM
    Hi,



    Were you employed 2010/11, if so you should've been taxed PAYE, and any underpayment would've shown before now and collected through your salary now.

    Not if you meet the criteria for completing Self Assessment - of which earning over £100k is one.
  • bobsy31
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    Thanks for the replies.

    From what people are saying the amount owed is correct - not good news!

    Anyone have advice on any of my other questions/points please?

    Thank you
  • BoGoF
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    No you don't enter NI contributions on your Tax Return.

    Unless you have incurred any expenses then there is probably nothing to reduce it. 'Typical' expenses - mileage relief for using your own car for business purposes, professional fees/subscriptions. Do you pay into your own private pension?
  • bobsy31
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    edited 22 January 2012 at 7:06PM
    I do not pay into a private pension, and claim expenses evry month from work for mileage, other costs etc


    So such 'surprises' and the underpayment issue doesn't happen again, Do I need to tell my employer about this so i'm put on the right tax code or whatever else they need to do?

    Thanks
  • BoGoF
    BoGoF Posts: 7,098 Forumite
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    Your current tax code should be 0T, you should tell advise HMRC.
  • bobsy31
    bobsy31 Posts: 73 Forumite
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    thanks bogof, just afew more things if you would pls help.


    My basic salary is less than 40% of what I earnt that tax year, and the bonuses I get on top of this are inconsistent and never guaranteed. So one year it could be nothing - should I still tell hmrc that my tax code is OT?

    my tax code changed from 623L in 2010-2001 to 723L this tax year - what does that mean?

    As a HRT, would this underpayment be reduced if I joined the company pension scheme or paid into my own pension? The company one is a salary sacrifice one where they contribute 50% of the NI they save. At the moment i have no Pension.

    Thanks
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