Problem with Zanissi Frost Free Fridge Freezer in unheated utility

greyteam1959

kwatt wrote: »

Ehm, sorry, it's a fact about operating temperatures. Or are you saying that all the labels printed on every bit of refrigeration sold in the EU is total rubbish because you think it is?

The SoGA is a great bit of legislation but, just remember, it protects retailers (a lot of the time from idiot consumers) as much as it protects consumers against rubbish retailers. It isn't a nuclear weapon that will get you results every time as you have to be "reasonable".

Stating that printed facts on the label of every bit of refrigeration equipment are rubbish in your opinion isn't exactly being reasonable.

If it's a single compressor fridge freezer, probably is as most are now, then under about 10˚C it will cut out and not kick in as the ambient is too low so it cannot, technically, work. It is not possible to have a cheap single compressor unit that will work in the conditions.

That's why there's labels telling people that.

K.

Absolute rubbish mate.

I have in excess opf 15, yes 15, refrigeration motors / fridges / freezers etc running in temperatures of a lot less trhan 5 degrees C.
The unit is faulty...........
End of.............

kwatt

I'm sorry, so what you're saying is that you're right, the rest of the world is wrong and every domestic refrigeration manufacturer is talking rubbish?

Okay then.

If the ambient in the room drops below the temperature of the fridge (where the thermostat is) then the stat won't switch to an on position. Therefore, the freezer won't run.

It is not technically possible to make such a system work in low temperature environments without fitting heaters and all sorts. That is "end of".

Regardless of how smart you might think you are that is the fact of the matter unless you've found a way around some basic laws of physics and not told anyone.

If you have separate units then you have more of a chance. But you can still have issues.

Being in field service for about 25 years working of domestic refrigeration I've seen literally scores of units in such environments with these issues.

The fridge freezer most probably isn't faulty at all, it is complete complete rubbish for you to say that as you couldn't call that without seeing it and diagnosing the issue.

K.

ListysDad

Kwatt. you're spot on.

It hisses me off that people are not warned when putting fridges and freezers in garages and utilities that are not heated. The poor sods are being mugged.

Meepster

kwatt wrote: »

I'm sorry, so what you're saying is that you're right, the rest of the world is wrong and every domestic refrigeration manufacturer is talking rubbish?

Okay then.

If the ambient in the room drops below the temperature of the fridge (where the thermostat is) then the stat won't switch to an on position. Therefore, the freezer won't run.

It is not technically possible to make such a system work in low temperature environments without fitting heaters and all sorts. That is "end of".

Regardless of how smart you might think you are that is the fact of the matter unless you've found a way around some basic laws of physics and not told anyone.

If you have separate units then you have more of a chance. But you can still have issues.

Being in field service for about 25 years working of domestic refrigeration I've seen literally scores of units in such environments with these issues.

The fridge freezer most probably isn't faulty at all, it is complete complete rubbish for you to say that as you couldn't call that without seeing it and diagnosing the issue.

K.

Well put!

It is one of the issues with frost free appliances, the ambient temperature needs to be well in excess of that for a non-frost free model.

olibrofiz

My mum had a Beko frost free fridge freezer in an unheated utility room, every winter, without fail, she couldn't use the freezer.

Last year she had a burst pipe in the house and the Beko was written off. She went shopping for a replacement and Comet advised that Beko was recommended as one that you could keep in a garage. She told them that was a load of rubbish and bought a Whirlpool, not frost free, fridge freezer. Come winter....can't use the freezer.

She has some cheap unheard of make of freezer in the garage which has been merrily freezing away for about 8 years without a hitch.