Inappropriate Sanction ?

AnzenEU

To clarify, I'm more than sufficiently adept in linguistics. This error wasn't a continuing trait of bad language, I merely made a spelling mistake, probably the first and last spelling mistake i'll ever make in an email address. I didn't get a delivery failure, I had actually sent the email to the correct domain name, but the username was wrong (it was a four word username).

The job centre pulled me whilst signing on stating they had contacted the aforementioned employer and had reply I hadn't applied to them.

People (on this forum) have been sanctioned for less (like turning up on the wrong day, wrong time etc).

Missing a signing-on date completely is less sanctionable than making a spelling mistake, is that what you're saying?

*Edit* I probably should have put this in the original post, my apologies.

hcb42

I think if you appeal with evidence of your intention, you may find it is lifted, they are not completely unreasonable

richyvezy

dseventy wrote: »

Sorry, I maybe way off mark here, but lets see what support I get....

When you apply for for a job, there are certain rules to follow. Like good grammar, good spelling, get it in on time etc.

If you cant even transpose an email address correctly then I can't see how your application was suitable for eligibility for JSA. People (on this forum) have been sanctioned for less (like turning up on the wrong day, wrong time etc).

I have a large business and employ lots of people. If someone can't even get the email address right to apply for a job, then I don't want to know! Attention to detail is so important in most jobs, if you can't even get the email address right then what hope is there left for you?

Probably not what you wanted to hear I know, and perhaps I will be flamed (rec me if you feel otherwise) but you did a major FAIL and both the employer and yourself are better off apart!

D70

Being so clever and having your own large business etc, I'm very surprised you have missed one vital point here.....and that is you wouldn't even know about it as you would not of received the email in the first place!! It was incorrect....

And you must be applauded for being the first person in history to have somehow eradicated human error from their business. :T

To the OP, honestly I wouldn't worry about it. The sanction would of been applied automatically as according to their records you failed to apply for a job they had advised you to apply for.

The fact that you did apply for it (never mind the error on your part) and have the proof will be enough for the sanction to be lifted and any due monies paid.

SGina

dseventy wrote: »

Sorry, I maybe way off mark here, but lets see what support I get....

When you apply for for a job, there are certain rules to follow. Like good grammar, good spelling, get it in on time etc.

If you cant even transpose an email address correctly then I can't see how your application was suitable for eligibility for JSA. People (on this forum) have been sanctioned for less (like turning up on the wrong day, wrong time etc).

I have a large business and employ lots of people. If someone can't even get the email address right to apply for a job, then I don't want to know! Attention to detail is so important in most jobs, if you can't even get the email address right then what hope is there left for you?

Probably not what you wanted to hear I know, and perhaps I will be flamed (rec me if you feel otherwise) but you did a major FAIL and both the employer and yourself are better off apart!

D70

D70 - if you are going to pass judgement on someone for their grammar & spelling, I do think you ought to get it right yourself. You often write 'your' instead of you're and have also made other spelling mistakes. You may argue that this is just a forum & you don't have to be acurate but making the above mistake, I think, is either because you don't know what is correct or it's become a bit of a habit.

injaroc

The one time my husband got a snaction was when the JC said they had given him 4 jobs to apply for he said 3 couldnt prove there wasnt a fourth. fine no problem he said tell me what it was and i'll apply for it now. they gave him the job details and the job was still available so he applied for it. still gave us 4 weeks sanction >.< I dont relly know what they base things on or if they have a quota but you can apply to reasses the sanction but as the person told us they can also make your sanction longer aswell as shorter. we were told that a sanction can be between 2 and 26 weeks so ours was short and we should be grateful it wasnt longer. wasnt a happy bear :mad:

Adereterial

OP - I suspect you'll either have the sanction lifted (though let this be a salutary example of the value of proofreading:) ) or they'll maintain the sanction but reduce the length of time it's imposed for. Which may mean it's lifted immediately if you've already served it.

If this is your first sanction I suspect the former is more likely. If it's not - then they're likely to be less lenient.

You can appeal again if you don't like the outcome of the reconsideration.

mattw7

Failure to apply for a job I believe carries an 8 week sanction based on someone I know who was sanctioned for the same offence but under different circumstances.

Its a tough call but in a way I'm with D70 here. Surely when you are e-mailing a job application or CV then the least thing you make sure you do is get that e-mail address correct. At the end of the day the job market is tough as it ever has been and if you cannot get an e-mail address right then really you aren't fit to work for anyone in the present climate. You are up against a lot of competition for any job so you really need to put the maximum amount of efforts in to apply for every job application you go for!

Put it this way, if you were e-mailing someone in order to receive a large sum of money you would check, double check and get triple check every last detail of that e-mail addy so why should a job application receive less attention to detail?

scoobs078

if it went to the right domain and you didnt get a failure notice wouldnt someone else there have the application then ? couldnt the JC or you find out who it did actually go to ?

Brodiebobs

I know at my work we have a drop box which the PA picks up with all the mis-spelt emails a day, ours is a [EMAIL="firstname.lastname&#64;companyname.co.uk"]firstname.lastname@companyname.co.uk[/EMAIL] email address. Alot that come through the dots are missed, mostly mine as I have a fairly common name but unusual spelling which even when i spell to people they send the 'original' spelling.

Perhaps if you contact them they may verify this? I think its a bit harsh if it was a one off and you have been applying for other jobs. I get the impression most who work in their are jobsworths who treat genuine claimants like this and the scroungers get away scott free. When my DH was unemployed he was applying for every job he saw, 60-70 per week, and they told him this wasnt good enough, that he should drive within a 20 mile radius giving out CV's... while supporting a family on £65 a week!

AnzenEU

Thanks for all the great replies!

In all honesty, I hadn't thought about contacting the domain for confirmation of an email, this is partly due to hurriedly handing in my appeal letter. Should my appeal get denied, I shall probably re-appeal after contacting the domain (unless of course my appeal is denied on the grounds that human error is indeed sanctionable).

I'm sensing a couple of replies have the picture a bit wrong

At the end of the day the job market is tough as it ever has been and if you cannot get an e-mail address right then really you aren't fit to work for anyone in the present climate

I'm not a bum, I extremely dislike being on benefits, I have been to university. I'm not deficient in spelling, I merely made a spelling mistake, I am human :P.

Shall update once I get a reply for the sake of interest, but I don't expect i'll hear anything for at least a week.