Charity shop Electrical goods

ThumbRemote

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

And you've only picked out bits of what spadoosh said to suit your argument.

If you can point me towards the post where I categorically stated charity shops aren't subject to the SOGA, I'll happily correct myself. Until then, you're just being argumentative for the sake of it.

You wrote: "Buying from a charity shop is no different to buying 2nd hand goods off Ebay, or from a boot fair."

As second hand goods from ebay/boot sale are most likely to be private sales, they will not be covered by the SoGA. If sales from a charity shop are "no different", they too will not be covered by the SoGA.

Either your statement needed qualifying to state you were only referring to second hand goods bought from a trading business on ebay/boot fair - or it was simply incorrect.

George_Michael

And you've only picked out bits of what spadoosh said to suit your argument.

No. We've picked out bits of what spadoosh said because it was incorrect and you agreed with it.

pulliptears

We have a British Heart Foundation Home and Electrical Store in these parts, I bought a quesadilla maker from there before Christmas and it was PAT tested and had a sticker underneath it to say when it was done.
IIRC all the electrical items they had all bore the same PAT sticker.

The_Pedant

The PAT stickers would merely be evidence of the test being carried out and as others have said, I doubt the sticker or PAT test would be a strict requirement to put electrical goods on sale. It is simply a tool to cover their backs.

The goods would however still need to be 'as described' and 'of suitable quality' (key definitions from SOGA). Any goods sold in a dangerous or non working state would most likely fail one or both points.

katejo

Norfolk_Jim wrote: »

Except you dont feel like a deadbeat asking Dixons for your cash back while demanding your "rights" in a charity shop makes me feel pretty low. The Telly is off to the tip tomorrow, they can keep the money but I'll never give them another penny. Lousy business. I did contact their head office but didn't even get an acknowledgement. My thanks for the advice and information about PAT testing etc everyone - Dont go falling out over it : )

Most local charity shops don't accept electrical goods. However the British Heart Foundation one does. My local branch syas that they test all products donated and gives a 3 month (or it might be 6 month) guarantee on them. I have just donated a tv there.

rustyboy21

ThumbRemote wrote: »

There is no legal concept of "sold as seen" under the SoGA. And buyng from a charity shop is different to buying from ebay/boot fair, where many sellers will be private individuals and thus the SoGA does not apply.

If this is as you say, why is it that I was taken to small claims after selling a customer an ex display fire surround, which I then cleaned up for her, and she rejected it, wanted her money back and took small claims out on me.

I won the case , as I had put on the order form/invoice ''Ex Display- sold as seen'' . I was told specifically by the magistrate( or whatever you call the guy in charge), that I was covered by doing so. She had to pay the balance of the sale.

Are you sure you are correct on this, as by my experience, you are not.

pendulum

rustyboy21 wrote: »

I was told specifically by the magistrate( or whatever you call the guy in charge), that I was covered by doing so. She had to pay the balance of the sale.

Why did she reject the fireplace surround? If she had no rights to reject the fireplace under SOGA (not as described, not fit for purpose etc) then her claim should have been rejected. Could it have been the "ex-display" written on the invoice that won it for you, because someone buying ex-display items has no right to expect them to be in perfect, as-new condition. The "sold as seen" along with ex-display might have convinced the judge she'd been informed the goods were ex-display (ie not brand new) and that she'd seen the goods and accepted them in the condition they were in at the time, thus concluded the contract.

Gordon Hose... laughable U-turn! How can you liken buying from a charity shop to being "no different to buying from a bootsale"? A bootsale is full of private sellers, a charity shop is a business. Terrible comparison. If you only agreed with some of spadoosh's post, rather than all of it, you should have made that clear.

shaun_from_Africa

I'm sure that I read on a consumer sdvice website (I can't remember which one) that "sold as seen" is perfectly acceptable provided that it only refers to the cosmetic appearance of an item. (This term is often used in furniture retailers who are selling off ex-display goods).

Even if something is sold as seen and this is stated on the goods or on the contract/receipt, this doesn't absolve the retailer of their obligations to ensure that the item is still fit for purpose and safe to use.