32" Philips TV

GMRhonin

32" Flat Screen TV was £940 last March now £500. form HiSpek.com with stand,free Philips DVD player,and 10 months interest free credit.Mega buy of 2004 in what Home Cinema and rated as best picture.I have one.FAB.

GMRhonin

ey_up

Yes i'll agree with that. Its a great tele. Paid that amount a year ago though - thanks to the now departed sky buy ;-) Recent price drop being due to new model being out i suspect.

Be warned though if you have poor tele reception it'll irritate the hell out of you because it picks up every imperfection! Fantastic on DVDs.

davet_3

I bought a philips 32" 100hz widescreen tv 2 years ago and it blew up last week. Apparently it's the 'painter' chip that's failed which is a very common thing and costs a min of £150 to fix. Every tv repair company I've asked have said that they would never buy a philips tv as long as they continue to put these naff chips in so be warned. Take a look on google for more info.

bargains83

davet wrote:

I bought a philips 32" 100hz widescreen tv 2 years ago and it blew up last week. Apparently it's the 'painter' chip that's failed which is a very common thing and costs a min of £150 to fix. Every tv repair company I've asked have said that they would never buy a philips tv as long as they continue to put these naff chips in so be warned. Take a look on google for more info.

When ordinary Tube based TV sets fail these days its often the 'flyback' (Line Output) transformer and/or the horizontal output transistor which are to blame. The transformer is the part which generates the 20kV Voltage required to light the tube and power the colour guns and the transistor is the component which creates a wave to run the transformer.

Sounds technical I know but replacing these components isn't all that difficult if you know how to use a soldering Iron and pump.

If one of these 2 components are at fault the entire set will probably fail to work at all, and you can normally hear a high pitched whistling in the back of the set.

TV repairmen will often tell and charge you anything so be vary careful when listening to them and get a second opinion if possible. When my parents tv broke down the repairman charged £120 and said it needed a lot of work. I had the back off it and saw that the flyback and the transistor had been changed and that was it (you can tell whats been replaced by the look of the solder).

Upon pricing these components up:

Flyback Transformer: £12.80
Horizontal Output Transistor: £3.00

So the repairman made £104 on that repair!.

Obviously, TV sets are very dangerous and can carry voltages inside around 10 x that of the mains if not left to discharge properly. So don't attempt to repair one yourself if you aren't sure what your doing.

geoff1_2

This is the case with most trades men, a small amount of them give the rest of us a bad name.
The best way to not get ripped off is to contact the manufacturer and they will advise a local repair agent, this does 2 things:-
1.. A contractor that has a contract with the manufacturer, this contract is often worth thousands of pound$ and they are unlikely to risk losing this for a few quid, if discovered to be dodgy.

2.. You will get manufacturer spares which are more reliable and a repairman who is used to working on these sets, so common faults are diognosed quickly and after all time is money!!!

Personally i wouldn`t buy a Philips as i see them far to often.
The best tvs are SONY or PANASONIC

talkshop

geoff1 wrote:

The best tvs are SONY or PANASONIC

I think you mean those are the worst tv's.


I am on my 2nd Philips TV. The first one lasted 10 years and I expect this new one will also last 10 years.

geoff1_2

talkshop wrote:

I think you mean those are the worst tv's.


I am on my 2nd Philips TV. The first one lasted 10 years and I expect this new one will also last 10 years.

On the whole tv s are as reliable as they ever were and you are unlucky to get a bad one however we are talking percentages here a philips tv is more likely to go faulty within te first 5 years than a S or a P

MarkR_2

Oooo should I or shouldnt i comment?
Yeah why not, think I should put my bit in on some of the above.
Ok the threads gone a little of the origianal grabbit,but its still sort of relevent.
Ok firstly to defend T.V repairmen, (best declare its one of the things i do for a living here) .The majority I know or have known over the years are honest and treat people fairly and none of them are making mega money. Like all trades unfortunatley there are a few "bad eggs" , they can just as easily be large service agents, I always think the best way to find any tradesman is to go on recomendations from family or friends.
Back to Philips TVs, there has been LOTS of problems due to the "painter ic" and its major money to get it sorted (no you cant do it with a normal sodering iron ! ) I have also seen a number of philps tvs (28" widescreens mainly) with tubes go after a fairly short time. For these reasons I wouldnt advice anyone to buy one.
To balance things a bit, when a philips tv is working ok, the picture quility is usualy superb , and just because recent sets have had problems it doesnt always follow that the latest ones will.

talkshop

I think the avoid all Philips brigade must be on tour here

I agree there were a few problems with some models about a year or 2 ago with one particular type of tube that was fitted, but those tubes are no longer being used, and it only affected a small minority of sets. The same with the painter chips.

If you have a fault then the TV comes with a guarantee, so what is the problem?

I have one of those Philips DVD recorders that always breaks down, and have had that 3 years now, and have had it repaired twice under warranty. Do I care ? No.
Philips make fantastic products, and I will continue to purchase, and not follow the anti-Philips sheep that seem to be resident on internet forums

Kellm9

geoff1 wrote:

Personally i wouldn`t buy a Philips as i see them far to often.
The best tvs are SONY or PANASONIC

My old trusty Panasonic prism A1 is still going after 13 years. I find it hard to justify buying a new one when this is still going strong.

I want a new LCD, I want a new LCD, I want a new LCD, I want a new LCD,

Wife says but our old Panasonic is great, unfortunately I can't dispute it. I might have to sabotage it if it goes on much longer.

Regards
Kells

mehta66

Had a 28 inch Sony trinitron for nearly 16 years ..... and its still going strong.

How can the build quality on that be disputed?