Tax underpayment: employer error

Mikeyorks

Windsorcastle wrote: »

... not least of which was the huge delay in HMRC notifying me, which was well outside the deadline they set themselves,

That is where they had the information in their possession with which to act. Which is the significant element you're continuing to ignore.

Otherwise they would simply be writing off all these earlier year underpayments - would they not?

chrismac1

I think the OP makes a good point, worth testing out in Esc A19. It's not clear to me how any right minded person can say that the OP did not have "reasonable belief that his/her tax affairs were in order" when HMRC are busy paying him or her a tax refund.

Naturally in the warped logic of HMRC there will be some explanation to show that the OP must have known something was badly wrong despite HMRC paying across some cash. However, back in the real world.......Cue numerous postings from HMRC lovers about what an absolute twit and mug I am. However, those posters whould beware that if that happens I will be bumping the thread from 2 days ago where everyone was posting about what a prat I am and the situation turned out as I predicted and HMRC tossed their hand in.

suso

chrismac1 wrote: »

what a prat I am

finally you post some sense.

Mikeyorks

chrismac1 wrote: »

I think the OP makes a good point, worth testing out in Esc A19. It's not clear to me how any right minded person can say that the OP did not have "reasonable belief that his/her tax affairs were in order" when HMRC are busy paying him or her a tax refund.

Why do I get the feeling of deja vu? Perhaps it's because we had that exchange at post #14?

Or could it be that we had that exchange just over a year ago, where you proved beyond reasonable doubt that :

his/her tax affairs were in order

.. is the total extent of your knowledge of ESC A19. Yet you tell everyone who's stupid enough to read it that you've won every case you've submitted? Whilst proving time and again that you don't understand it.

chrismac1

To the OP, please study the thread I've just bumped from hwh. Even if the chances of you getting a similar result are only 10% - and personally I'd be happy to offer a £1,000 bet at evens to any of the sneerers - it's worth keeping going. Assume the HMRC person you are dealing with has not bothered to read your letter properly and is not dealing with you with any integrity until proven otherwise.

Mikeyorks

chrismac1 wrote: »

To the OP, please study the thread I've just bumped from hwh. Even if the chances of you getting a similar result are only 10% - and personally I'd be happy to offer a £1,000 bet at evens to any of the sneerers - it's worth keeping going..

There is no similarity whatsoever - so why bump it?

Assume the HMRC person you are dealing with has not bothered to read your letter properly

Would that be the same as your efforts on this thread? If you looked even vaguely at the opening posts you would see that, in evaluating ESC A19 HMRC have identified 'employer error'. In which case ESC A19 is effectively closed as an option.

chrismac1

HMRC have identified this as employer error.

Your multiple choice question today is:

A. HMRC always get this sort of thing accurate with 99% relaiblity, so that's that then.

B. HMRC utterly lack integrity and point the finger at anyone else possible, bar themselves, when they make an error. Hence if HMRC have identified this as an employer error no-one can tell if it really is employer error or just another finger-pointing from HMRC.

Answers on a postcard please to Dame Leslie, HMRC, Tell a Tall Story Towers, London.

BoGoF

Folks, if his posts are as irritating to you as they were to me then put him on your ignore list like I did. I can guarantee your MSE experience will be a whole let better not reading the tripe he posts. Only downside is people might believe him.

Mikeyorks

chrismac1 wrote: »

Answers on a postcard please to Dame Leslie, HMRC, Tell a Tall Story Towers, London.

She retired 2 months ago ....... and died a week ago :

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/news/lesley-strathie.htm

Anything else you'd like to get wrong whilst you're at it?