Tuition Fees Loan Problem

MusicalLawyer

I can't apply on line as a continuing student it won't let me. Student Finance are usually pretty rubbish anyway.

Madjen18

I've not been able to find out anything more but it does seem that the system isn't quite right for 2012/13 applications yet. The main launch is usually in Feb/March and the paper forms should become available at some point too.

jtc2246

Hi, I am also having the exact same problem! I'm assuming that it is due to it being so early and so many changes being made! I wont be sending off my application just yet, I'm going to give it until the first week in February to see whats happening and if nothing has changed I will either give them a ring up or go visit them face - face ! as the later yoju have your application submitted the longer it takes to actually receive your funding which is going to be a bit of a chew on for 2012

Thank you Mr Cameron

Taiko

jtc2246 wrote: »

Hi, I am also having the exact same problem! I'm assuming that it is due to it being so early and so many changes being made! I wont be sending off my application just yet, I'm going to give it until the first week in February to see whats happening and if nothing has changed I will either give them a ring up or go visit them face - face ! as the later yoju have your application submitted the longer it takes to actually receive your funding which is going to be a bit of a chew on for 2012

Thank you Mr Cameron

What fault does he play in this exactly?

nimbo

Taiko wrote: »

What fault does he play in this exactly?

personally i feel that he's the spear head of the group that are multi millionaires that got into oxbridge, didn't pay fees themselves, and then foisted them on the poor unsuspecting public....

melancholly

nimbo wrote: »

personally i feel that he's the spear head of the group that are multi millionaires that got into oxbridge, didn't pay fees themselves, and then foisted them on the poor unsuspecting public....

much as i hate 'my mate Dave', the move towards fees started with New Labour, breaking an election pledge in the process. the new changes are clearly a massive step in what i would consider to be the wrong direction, but the road was started by Blair and Blunkett......

(plus the SLC need to take responsibility for their own failings in terms of computer systems and staffing - their organisational screw ups in the last few years are an orthogonal problem to the increase in fees!)

nimbo

melancholly wrote: »

much as i hate 'my mate Dave', the move towards fees started with New Labour, breaking an election pledge in the process. the new changes are clearly a massive step in what i would consider to be the wrong direction, but the road was started by Blair and Blunkett......

(plus the SLC need to take responsibility for their own failings in terms of computer systems and staffing - their organisational screw ups in the last few years are an orthogonal problem to the increase in fees!)

i do agree that i was started by labour - however £1000 or there abouts is tokenism...

people now days will be leaving uni with debts of over 50k minimum... and that's before they've got a job, have a house etc...

Derivative

nimbo wrote: »

i do agree that i was started by labour - however £1000 or there abouts is tokenism...

people now days will be leaving uni with debts of over 50k minimum... and that's before they've got a job, have a house etc...

My current ~£3500 fees are down to Labour. (3k fees were introduced roughly 2004 if I remember correctly)

A key point is that of course, both the Conservatives and the Lib Dems opposed the fee increase while Labour were in power.

Both Labour and the Conservatives want tuition fees to rise. Neither of them will admit to agreeing with each other.

I'm not sure how 'getting into oxbridge' comes into this. Both of the Universities have some of, if not the most generous bursary schemes for those on low income.

A quick google:

Top rates of bursary for the lowest household incomes are as follows:

http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/univ/cambridgebursary/2012/index.html
Cambridge £3500 annual bursary, £3000 fee first year

http://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate_courses/student_funding/english_students.html
Oxford £4300 bursary (first year), £3500 fee (first year)
£3300 bursary (other years), £6000 fee (other years)

So poorer students studying at Oxford post-2012 will end up almost on level footing to those who studied under the old system.

Not everyone will get this, but a decent proportion of the highest achievers will, and I'm sure other universities have (less generous) schemes in place.

Taiko

You do realise that Labour were going to be setting them at a straight £9000, right?

And the debt itself is nothing. Hell, it's not even proper debt in a way. You'll only repay a small percentage, and if you look at some figures in the calculator, most won't repay what they borrow.

Oldernotwiser

nimbo wrote: »

i do agree that i was started by labour - however £1000 or there abouts is tokenism...

people now days will be leaving uni with debts of over 50k minimum... and that's before they've got a job, have a house etc...

Although loans are far more than anyone would wish, the situation isn't helped by exaggeration. The majority of students on a 3 year course and studying outside London will leave with a debt of £43,500 at current rates and for those from poorer families who get a grant it will be considerably less.

For many, having to pay £1,000 pa fees up front was a far bigger problem.