Retiring from the NHS/ Annual Leave

SarEl

mlp wrote: »

Cothen the three unions with representation in the authority aren't doing a very good job!

I agree entirely. They aren't.

CruisingSaver

mildred1978 wrote: »

Utter rubbish.

Thanks for your considered opinion, however I actually work in the NHS and those are the rules!

Honestly, some people have no manners:cool:

Spirit_2

LittleVoice wrote: »

NHS (and local authority) employees are fortunate in that they receive more than the statutory minimum amount of paid leave. The employer can therefore choose to apportion holiday on complete calendar month only basis - as long as by so doing the employee receives a full entitlement to statutory holiday for the part month (which will be the case because of the extra organisational holiday entitlement).

Agenda for Change Terms and Conditions set out that holiday is only accrued for whole months, it is a holiday allowance in excess of statutory minimum.

A small number of NHS Trusts may have a local policy of prorating to the day but most do not. The National Staff Record System (ESR) calculates entitlement accruals on whole months.

tomjonesrules

CruisingSaver wrote: »

Thanks for your considered opinion, however I actually work in the NHS and those are the rules!

Honestly, some people have no manners:cool:

As someone that has left the NHS, I can confirm that accrued annual leave is calculated on a daily (or hourly, for part time staff) basis.

CruisingSaver

Spirit wrote: »

Agenda for Change Terms and Conditions set out that holiday is only accrued for whole months, it is a holiday allowance in excess of statutory minimum.

A small number of NHS Trusts may have a local policy of prorating to the day but most do not. The National Staff Record System (ESR) calculates entitlement accruals on whole months.

Thank you Spirit!

mildred1978

Spirit wrote: »

Agenda for Change Terms and Conditions set out that holiday is only accrued for whole months, it is a holiday allowance in excess of statutory minimum.

A small number of NHS Trusts may have a local policy of prorating to the day but most do not. The National Staff Record System (ESR) calculates entitlement accruals on whole months.

But a 'month' can straddle 2 calendar months! So 15th - 14th counts as does 22nd - 21st, not just 1st to 28/29/30/31.

Spirit_2

mildred1978 wrote: »

But a 'month' can straddle 2 calendar months! So 15th - 14th counts as does 22nd - 21st, not just 1st to 28/29/30/31.

It can as the passage of time but AFC holiday years commence 1 April and the t's and c's refer to calendar months.

t0rt0ise

Interesting though that the Barrister here tells us that it is unlawful to calculate leave in that way. Maybe they get away with it because everyone lets them.

ohreally

His a/l* entitlement after 10 years service is 33 days -afc table 7, leave entitlement. I would expect him to receive around 5.5/6 days pro-rated (depending on when he leaves service).

Is he given a choice between receiving payment or having the pro-rated days deducted from his retirement date? - may be worth discussing any possible pension affect of this with a steward.

* excl p/h.

LittleVoice

SarEl wrote: »

No they can't. They must fulfill their contractual obligations. That is what contracts are for.

And when the contractual obligation is to accrue on the basis of whole months only?