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Increased premiums (for a claim) how long for?

Wig
Wig Posts: 14,139 Forumite
I just did an anonymous quote to see how much a claim would cost on renewal
I first did a full NCB / no recent claim quote for £200
I then did a 3 year NCB / 1 claim in 2011 quote for £333

Then I thought I had finished as I had found out a claim would cost me £140 ish in the 1st year and left the website, but now I wished I had tried the same for a claim in 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005,

To see what long term effect the claim would have.... does anyone know or have a guess? I'll have to do it again, I suppose. :o

P.S. you'd also lose your excess on the claim, so £250 excess the claim will cost you £400 in the first year
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  • forgotmyname
    forgotmyname Posts: 33,055 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    try full NCB with 1 claim. Full could be anything from 3 to 9 years from quotes i have done.

    Declare claims from 3 to 5 years for most insurers, Doesnt mean its cheaper though by going with a company that only
    ask for 3 years history.
    Censorship Reigns Supreme in Troll City...

  • I did one for my non-fault claim over 5 years, and it's going to cost me at least £1.5k over 5 years going on todays statistics and prices, £1.5k out of pocket for someone elses mistake, lol.
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    I did one for my non-fault claim over 5 years, and it's going to cost me at least £1.5k over 5 years going on todays statistics and prices, £1.5k out of pocket for someone elses mistake, lol.

    Doesn't seem right (Average increase of £300 a year??)

    When you say it was a non fault claim, did your insurer have to pay anything? (If so, then it's a fault claim irrespective of whether or not you were blameless)
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    Wig wrote: »
    I just did an anonymous quote to see how much a claim would cost on renewal
    I first did a full NCB / no recent claim quote for £200
    I then did a 3 year NCB / 1 claim in 2011 quote for £333

    Then I thought I had finished as I had found out a claim would cost me £140 ish in the 1st year and left the website, but now I wished I had tried the same for a claim in 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005,

    To see what long term effect the claim would have.... does anyone know or have a guess? I'll have to do it again, I suppose. :o

    P.S. you'd also lose your excess on the claim, so £250 excess the claim will cost you £400 in the first year

    If you're really bored, try it with protected ncd, and without.
    I can't remember the figures, but I think I had to have more than 2 claims every 5 years or so to make it worthwhile protecting the ncd.
    Saying as I've never had one in over thirty years I've quids in.
  • Quentin wrote: »
    Doesn't seem right (Average increase of £300 a year??)

    When you say it was a non fault claim, did your insurer have to pay anything? (If so, then it's a fault claim irrespective of whether or not you were blameless)

    Just going on what figures the site produced when changing the relative facts over a 5 year period so it is liable to change over teh coming years, in real life, and I went to my insurance who passed me onto their claim management company as it wasn't my fault, so they recovered all costs from the other persons insurance and I never payed any excess.
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    £300 does seem a lot.

    Have you got any NCD? And have you increased it for each year? And tried a comparison site for multiple insurers?
  • Gavin83
    Gavin83 Posts: 8,757 Forumite
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    I did the same thing on a comparison site (I think it was money supermarket) and my premium went up by about 60% if I entered a claim. Glad I'm currently claim free because it's extremely expensive. I've never seen an insurer ask if it was a fault or non fault claim either, both seem to go into the same category. I have seen some people on here say that a claim doesn't affect your premium though so I'd be curious as to which insurers they're using.
  • Wig
    Wig Posts: 14,139 Forumite
    Gavin83 wrote: »
    I did the same thing on a comparison site (I think it was money supermarket) and my premium went up by about 60% if I entered a claim. Glad I'm currently claim free because it's extremely expensive. I've never seen an insurer ask if it was a fault or non fault claim either, both seem to go into the same category. I have seen some people on here say that a claim doesn't affect your premium though so I'd be curious as to which insurers they're using.

    Yes some don't ask if it's fault or non fault, but I seem to remember Tesco or Nationwide did offer the choice of fault or non fault.
  • forgotmyname
    forgotmyname Posts: 33,055 Forumite
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    Just thought it affects you for 5 years, Most ask for 5 years history but does it go further than that?

    You added to the statistics for your postcode, 1 extra accident may have pushed your postcode into a higher group.
    So the affect could be very long lasting.
    Censorship Reigns Supreme in Troll City...

  • Wig
    Wig Posts: 14,139 Forumite
    edited 5 January 2012 at 7:17PM
    You added to the statistics for your postcode, 1 extra accident may have pushed your postcode into a higher group.
    So the affect could be very long lasting.

    Don't be silly. I imagine the way they collect data is actual paid out claims, either on their own books, or they all collectively report their paid out claims to a central database. It would not be done on quotations that would be a very silly way of doing risk assessment.

    I wouldn't think they even care about the relationship between accident claims and postcodes, because there wouldn't be any meaningful relationship. Thefts and vandalism Vs postcode, I can understand.
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