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Zen MP3 player - how do label albums/songs on it?

I've got a Zen mp3 player and I'm ripping music from CD's to load onto the player.

However, after doing the drag/drop routine onto the mp3 player, when I label the albums and songs through the PC it doesn't show the labels on the MP3 player itself. Instead it just shows 'Track 1' etc


Where do I label the album/songs in order for it to show up on the mp3 player?

Thanks
"To be ignorant of one's ignorance is the malady of the ignorant." Amos Bronson Alcott

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  • googler
    googler Posts: 16,103 Forumite
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    What method have you used to label them at the moment?
  • londonman81
    londonman81 Posts: 1,130 Forumite
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    googler wrote: »
    What method have you used to label them at the moment?

    I've just done right click > rename and then typed in the name manually.

    I can see the names when I open the music folder in the mp3 through my PC, but I can't see those names when I look at the same folders through the mp3 player itself.

    ??
    "To be ignorant of one's ignorance is the malady of the ignorant." Amos Bronson Alcott
  • Dave_C_2
    Dave_C_2 Posts: 1,827 Forumite
    edited 30 December 2011 at 8:43PM
    Hi, if you have one of these
    31hrqT96UyL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
    then this player and the Zen MX uses the MTP file system which means that the ID3 tags on the MP3 files have to be correct.
    I have one and I use Windows Media Player to fill in the tags for me:
    Add the ripped CD to WMP library right click and choose "get album info"
    Or just use WMP to rip the CD in the first place - it fills in the tags automagically.

    More info on the Zen here

    How to use wmp11 to find album info here

    I mostly use WMP to sync to the zen, but drag and drop works fine once the tags are sorted. You can also use Winamp or Media monkey to do the same job.

    Dave
  • londonman81
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    Dave_C wrote: »
    Hi, if you have one of these
    31hrqT96UyL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
    then this player and the Zen MX uses the MTP file system which means that the ID3 tags on the MP3 files have to be correct.
    I have one and I use Windows Media Player to fill in the tags for me:
    Add the ripped CD to WMP library right click and choose "get album info"
    Or just use WMP to rip the CD in the first place - it fills in the tags automagically.

    More info on the Zen here

    I mostly use WMP to sync to the zen, but drag and drop works fine once the tags are sorted. You can also use Winamp or Media monkey to do the same job.

    Dave

    Thanks for that - the thing is that when I rip the CD, it doesn't fill in any name for each track i.e just shows Track 1, Track 2 etc. Should it still be possible to fill in the names manually somewhere and have it show up on the mp3 player?

    BTW - i have the Zen Style 100

    Thanks
    "To be ignorant of one's ignorance is the malady of the ignorant." Amos Bronson Alcott
  • googler
    googler Posts: 16,103 Forumite
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    Should it still be possible to fill in the names manually somewhere and have it show up on the mp3 player?

    Yes - in the ID3 tags the previous poster referred to.

    Select an mp3 file on your PC and right-click on it. Select Properties.

    This may vary for you, but I then select Summary Tab, Advanced button, and that shows me the tags. (Windoze XP). I'll bet you don't have the tracks named here.

    It varies in later versions of Windoze
  • londonman81
    londonman81 Posts: 1,130 Forumite
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    googler wrote: »
    Yes - in the ID3 tags the previous poster referred to.

    Select an mp3 file on your PC and right-click on it. Select Properties.

    This may vary for you, but I then select Summary Tab, Advanced button, and that shows me the tags. (Windoze XP). I'll bet you don't have the tracks named here.

    It varies in later versions of Windoze

    I get Advanced Button and it shows no track name, so where do I enter it?
    "To be ignorant of one's ignorance is the malady of the ignorant." Amos Bronson Alcott
  • googler
    googler Posts: 16,103 Forumite
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    What is shown under Advanced on your system?
  • Dave_C_2
    Dave_C_2 Posts: 1,827 Forumite
    Sorry I haven't got any experience of the Zen style, but the trick with WMP should still work.

    Be warned that under MP3 file properties in Windows there are two Advanced buttons. You want the one in the summary tab - it toggles between Advanced and Simple.

    I still claim that it's easier editing the tags in WMP:)

    Please let us know how you get on.
    Dave
  • jayme1
    jayme1 Posts: 2,154 Forumite
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    edited 30 December 2011 at 10:05PM
    you can use something like mp3tag to batch tag all the mp3s from the file name.

    ie if you have named the file name *artist* - *Title* then using mp3tag it can auto insert the artist and title into the mp3s metadata

    ps WMP is awful for meta tagging (literally everything else is better) and doing it manually would take ages,
  • Dave_C_2
    Dave_C_2 Posts: 1,827 Forumite
    jayme1 wrote: »
    you can use something like mp3tag to batch tag all the mp3s from the file name.
    ie if you have named the file name *artist* - *Title* then using mp3tag it can auto insert the artist and title into the mp3s metadata
    ps WMP is awful for meta tagging (literally everything else is better) and doing it manually would take ages,

    You are quite right, MP3tag is very good. But I am trying to keep things simple at this stage. MP3tag is a bit techy for a newbie.

    I quote WMP because it is installed on all modern Windows machines by default and there is no extra program to download and install. As you say it is a bit naff, but labelling one CD at a time is no big deal. I have used it for years - it works for me and my Zen.

    WMP will find album info from the internet so manually editing is a rarity although you sometimes have to manually add the album art.
    MP3tag does a similar job - and gets the album art!

    Dave
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