New electric supply question

gtorr

Hi folks,

Just bought a house with no electric, Previous supply was looped from next door and the last house owner was stealing the neighbours electric.
Hence the no electric due to it being cut off. I knew of this problem so it was not an issue.

Just wondering...is the electric company legally obliged to offer me a supply at their expense? As this is not a new build or an alteration.

Or are they just obliged to give me a quote for xxxx amount.

Cheers in advance :beer:

zax47

gtorr wrote: »

Hi folks,

Just bought a house with no electric, Previous supply was looped from next door and the last house owner was stealing the neighbours electric.
Hence the no electric due to it being cut off. I knew of this problem so it was not an issue.

Just wondering...is the electric company legally obliged to offer me a supply at their expense?

No.

As this is not a new build or an alteration.

Even on a new build it ain't free! The builder pays, you pay the builder (by buying the house). If you want a supply head moving for an alteration then you pay...

Or are they just obliged to give me a quote for xxxx amount.

Your DNO will be very happy to quote you to provide a separate supply, but expect a quote of over £1000. For example, here in Yorkshire Central Networks/YEDL want £850 + VAT to relocate an existing supply head up to 5m. I haven't seen your installation but would expect a quote for a £1500-2000... :eek:

Find your local DNO (Distribution Network Operator) here;

http://www.nationalgrid.com/uk/Electricity/AboutElectricity/DistributionCompanies/

Myser

If at all possible, they will try to supply you directly from the main cable outside. Where this isn't possible, they may opt to loop from the property next door.

It depends how accessible your property is and how the main cable is layed.

They shouldn't charge you for this as it is a domestic property?

DVardysShadow

If it was cut off, it depends how it was cut off as to what is required to get supply put back. Normally, supply is cut off by removing the 'company fuse'. However, a determined class of non payer will put something across the gap. Your previous resident appears to be determined if he stole supply from a neighbour, so he may also have gone down the road of bridging the company fuse. to detect such cases, the old electricity boards would drive around cut off addresses at night to see if any had the lights on. The remedy was to cut the service cable to the house and cap it off, although I have heard of a capped off cable being rejointed by the cut off customer - and extremely dangerous operation for anyone not trained in live cable jointing.

So, a bit of a ramble, but the point is that the cost will depend on the measures taken to cut off the supply.

zax47

Myser wrote: »

If at all possible, they will try to supply you directly from the main cable outside. Where this isn't possible, they may opt to loop from the property next door.

It depends how accessible your property is and how the main cable is layed.

Can't argue with that, but don't expect the DNO will automatically do what you might consider is the easiest - I deal with DNOs every week!

They shouldn't charge you for this as it is a domestic property?

However have you come to this conclusion? The DNO aren't a charity - of course they will levy a fee for the work, whatever they do. The only free thing may be the site survey they do to decide how to quote the job...

gtorr

zax47 wrote: »

Can't argue with that, but don't expect the DNO will automatically do what you might consider is the easiest - I deal with DNOs every week!



However have you come to this conclusion? The DNO aren't a charity - of course they will levy a fee for the work, whatever they do. The only free thing may be the site survey they do to decide how to quote the job...

Cheers for the replys folks appreciated.. I was a wee bit sneaky sorry

I have a quote from NEDL, the site survey guy is a really nice helpful chap. There is a plan in place and I was just checking to see whether I had missed a trick. As the new suplly cause a right nightmare. Ideally it would be a relooped supply. However it looks like a new mains supply.

I appreciate your help folks

michael_nod

a consumer unit / fuse board

is simply a box that needs a live earth and neutral

earths and neutrals join onto a main shared block

apart from the main incoming live/neutral/earth

the live wires entering the top of the fuses
are single/double lights/sockets ect

waynehayes

michael_nod wrote: »

a consumer unit / fuse board

is simply a box that needs a live earth and neutral

earths and neutrals join onto a main shared block

apart from the main incoming live/neutral/earth

the live wires entering the top of the fuses
are single/double lights/sockets ect

Erm.....???

zax47

gtorr wrote: »

Cheers for the replys folks appreciated.. I was a wee bit sneaky sorry

I have a quote from NEDL, the site survey guy is a really nice helpful chap. There is a plan in place and I was just checking to see whether I had missed a trick. As the new suplly cause a right nightmare. Ideally it would be a relooped supply. However it looks like a new mains supply.

I appreciate your help folks

What's the quote?

ormus

http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/consumer_unit_split_load.htm

this gives you a rough idea of how a modern split load consumer unit is wired up.

zax47

Ormus, How does that relate to the OPs question? Post #7 is evidently from someone special, very speshul indeed.......