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Made redundant now company re-hiring others?
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Indeed and it is exactly what I wrote in my post. But LittleVoice and SarEl, for some reason, seemed to disagree.
That would be because you are incorrect. Redundancy has a set of "rules" that must be followed - including a fair and objective selection procedure. But you cannot enforce those "rules" until you have the ability to claim unfair dismissal if they are not followed. "Rules" that cannot be enforced aren' even vague guidelines - they are nothing. So it wouldn't have mattered one jot if the OP had been made "redundant" and they employed 12 people the day before he was - he could still have done nothing about it. Rules are only rules - or laws laws, if you can make them stick. And at 10 months service the OP couldn't have made them stick.0 -
Thank you to everyone thats posted about my redundancy. My actual position hasnt been made redundant as 10 other people with the same job as me, still have theirs.
Originally they wanted to make 2 people redundant and offered redundancy to two employees who are coming up to retirement...they declined, so rather than have to pay any money to anyone they made myself and another employee redundant with 2 weeks notice. During the first week, I was already on holiday.
When I returned, they had decided they would now only make one of us redundant and we would be interviewed as if we had never worked there before...but that didnt happen in the interview at all!
Ive spoken to HR and they said to contact my old manager which I did, i just find it annoying as Im hunting for work and 3months later still nothing, yet my old manager and regional manager promised me, if anything came up, I would know.
Yes I have been lied to but a job is a job and I'd rather be working even if it was for liars!0 -
lozza12689 wrote: »Thank you to everyone thats posted about my redundancy. My actual position hasnt been made redundant as 10 other people with the same job as me, still have theirs.
Originally they wanted to make 2 people redundant and offered redundancy to two employees who are coming up to retirement...they declined, so rather than have to pay any money to anyone they made myself and another employee redundant with 2 weeks notice. During the first week, I was already on holiday.
When I returned, they had decided they would now only make one of us redundant and we would be interviewed as if we had never worked there before...but that didnt happen in the interview at all!
Ive spoken to HR and they said to contact my old manager which I did, i just find it annoying as Im hunting for work and 3months later still nothing, yet my old manager and regional manager promised me, if anything came up, I would know.
Yes I have been lied to but a job is a job and I'd rather be working even if it was for liars!
People say that it is not the person that is made redundant but the job. In fact redundancy is about a business having a reduced requirement for work of a particular type - so it is not necessarily the job held by any one individual.
In your situation it would appear to have been a business need to reduce costs in general combined with a reduced requirement for the type of work you did. Any one who did the type of work you did could have been considered for redundancy.
In fact it could even have been that someone elsewhere in the company could have been dismissed on the grounds of redundancy and someone doing the work you did could have taken their role provided, of course, they had the skills to do it! By the same token, work done elsewhere in the organisation could have reduced and someone in that role could have been moved to replace you. It's called "bumping".
I agree that if you are not in work it would be better to return to the original company than not to have a job at all. It is also worth staying in touch with your manager so that a reasonable reference can be obtained in due course. I would, however, try to establish what the reference would say because the "we don't want to lose you" statement is easy to say and enables someone to leave in less unpleasant circumstances.0 -
anamenottaken wrote: »It is also worth staying in touch with your manager so that a reasonable reference can be obtained in due course. I would, however, try to establish what the reference would say because the "we don't want to lose you" statement is easy to say and enables someone to leave in less unpleasant circumstances.
I've already asked about referenc es but he said its company policy that HR deal with references (so someone who doesnt know me) and they can't give personal references only when i started/when I left and the position I held!0 -
lozza12689 wrote: »I've already asked about referenc es but he said its company policy that HR deal with references (so someone who doesnt know me) and they can't give personal references only when i started/when I left and the position I held!
Fairly common these days.
It will just state when you joined, when you left, if you left on good terms (i.e. you weren't sacked for gross misconduct) and maybe your final salary at the point of leaving.0
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