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Resigning before receiving contract

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  • paddyrg wrote: »
    Well, your job ends in Feb anyway, so they'd be pretty unreasonable not to expect you to look for more work. Just honestly ask your manager if you did manage to find more work after this job, would she be supportive?

    Sorry, I'm not sure what you're getting at? They're supportive about me looking for work as they feel pretty bad that they have to let me go apparently, I don't have a problem with handing my notice in and working it but I'm wondering if it's wise to do so before receiving the contract (which according to the new employer will be sent out 1st class tomorrow).
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  • Sooki
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    Have you any holiday owing? Would you be able to work it this way?

    It sounds like your trying to leave on good terms which is always the best thing to do, if your current employer is on side they should support you. I'm sure any reasonable person won't want to mess your opportunity of employment for a sake of a few weeks.

    I would chat to your boss and explain the situation you are in before you put anything in writing, tell them you feel badly about leaving the contract early as you have enjoyed your work but under the current economic climate you feel it would be foolish not to accept the new contract when it arrives.t

    What not to say is that if they needed you so desperately for the last month they should of offered you permanent employment, as this will upset.

    The only exception is if you employed to oversee a project and the conclusion date is the end date, and at what level this is.

    The best course of action is one of having best references in the future.
  • LittleVoice
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    What you are risking is one month's pay (February).

    As you have only just provided referee details, it is unlikely your job offer is actually confirmed/unconditional because it would be "subject to receipt of satisfactory references".

    You don't have to hand in your written notice to your line manager if they are not there. You just need to get it to an appropriate person (eg your manager's manager or someone in HR if your line manager is not there).

    Personally, I would hand in my resignation letter on 30 December with an end date of 31 January, thereby giving a full clear calendar month's notice. This is not my normal recommendation (which would be to wait for the unconditional offer) but, as long as you have been straight in describing what you have done in your current role and are confident that your reference will be fine, then you should feel fairly secure. One thing to watch is that you have not taken more holiday than would have accrued to the end of January because it is likely that would be deducted from your final pay.
  • Sooki wrote: »
    Have you any holiday owing? Would you be able to work it this way?

    It sounds like your trying to leave on good terms which is always the best thing to do, if your current employer is on side they should support you. I'm sure any reasonable person won't want to mess your opportunity of employment for a sake of a few weeks.

    I would chat to your boss and explain the situation you are in before you put anything in writing, tell them you feel badly about leaving the contract early as you have enjoyed your work but under the current economic climate you feel it would be foolish not to accept the new contract when it arrives.t

    What not to say is that if they needed you so desperately for the last month they should of offered you permanent employment, as this will upset.

    The only exception is if you employed to oversee a project and the conclusion date is the end date, and at what level this is.

    The best course of action is one of having best references in the future.

    Thanks for your advice. I'm on a temp contract and they said because it's a certain type of contract, unfortunately they would not be able to renew this past a year and a half. So that's fine, they're very apologetic that they can't extend it and they're fine with me looking for other jobs and more than willing to provide references etc. My main dilemma is handing in my notice before signing the new contract but I would only be risking one month's pay anyway - whether the new employer changes their mind or not, I won't be employed where I am past February anyway.
    What you are risking is one month's pay (February).

    As you have only just provided referee details, it is unlikely your job offer is actually confirmed/unconditional because it would be "subject to receipt of satisfactory references".

    You don't have to hand in your written notice to your line manager if they are not there. You just need to get it to an appropriate person (eg your manager's manager or someone in HR if your line manager is not there).

    Personally, I would hand in my resignation letter on 30 December with an end date of 31 January, thereby giving a full clear calendar month's notice. This is not my normal recommendation (which would be to wait for the unconditional offer) but, as long as you have been straight in describing what you have done in your current role and are confident that your reference will be fine, then you should feel fairly secure. One thing to watch is that you have not taken more holiday than would have accrued to the end of January because it is likely that would be deducted from your final pay.

    I think most of the managers here have taken the 2 days between Christmas and New Year off and the people who will be in, will actually just be doing menial work for the two days. I don't mind not being paid for the full month; the new job will pay quite a bit more than this one and I want to be on good terms with them. I have a bit of flexi hours debit but I can make that up on the one Saturday.
  • Acc72
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    Bumpety bump :)

    Are you hoping for a response that you agree with ?
  • Acc72 wrote: »
    Are you hoping for a response that you agree with ?

    No, there were a few questions that I responded to and wasn't sure what effect these would have.
  • I would only resign if you can afford for the other job to fall through.

    I was in a similar situation recently i had a conditional offer of Employment which specifically told me to wait for the unconditional offer before submitting my notice (i had to pass security checks and a medical). Like you i was impatient to submit my notice especially as i have a 13wk notice period but has all worked out in the end and i stuck my notice in last monday on receipt of the unconditional offer.

    A decision only you can make if the worst case scenario should happen.
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  • zzzLazyDaisy
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    To be honest, having/not having a copy of the contract doesn't mean much. They can still withdraw the job at any time before you start work - and even after you start working for them they can terminate the employment at any time within one year (soon to be two years) provided they don't breach anti-discrimination laws. In any case, the law only requires that you be given written particulars of employment within two months of starting work - so most employees start work with no sight of a contract.

    To me, the only reason you would hang back, would be if the offer letter has not clearly stated all the T&Cs, and you want to have the opportunity to fully consider the terms of the contract before making a final decision.

    Also as others have said, you don't have to hand your notice into your manager - if that person is not in work, just hand your notice in to HR, or to the next manager up.
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
  • LittleVoice
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    I think most of the managers here have taken the 2 days between Christmas and New Year off and the people who will be in, will actually just be doing menial work for the two days. I don't mind not being paid for the full month; the new job will pay quite a bit more than this one and I want to be on good terms with them. I have a bit of flexi hours debit but I can make that up on the one Saturday.

    If there really is no manager, then I'd send an email.

    I don't think I've ever worked somewhere where it was permissible for only those near the bottom of the hierarchy to be in the offices.
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