are you losing faith in the food industry ?

taxi97w

seraphina wrote:

I agree with Queenie and the others - it's not the school's responsibility to teach cookery and other basic life skills. If we do decide it's a school's responsibility to do so we are sliding down a slippery slope of erosion of parental rights and responsibilities.

I would far rather money was spent educating *parents* about cooking good, nutritious food.

But didn't our parents learn cooking in school & from their parents, and that's how they know how to teach cooking? It's got to start somewhere. It's not a chicken/egg scenario ie: which came first. You learn in school, you teach your children. They learn (extra) in school also then teach their children, and so it goes on.

seraphina

taxi97w wrote:

But didn't our parents learn cooking in school & from their parents, and that's how they know how to teach cooking? It's got to start somewhere. It's not a chicken/egg scenario ie: which came first. You learn in school, you teach your children. They learn (extra) in school also then teach their children, and so it goes on.

My mum did Home Ec in school; it was the usual scones, pastry, cake affair. Looking back through her old HE school book (which she still has as a recipe book) there's not much you could feed a family on - plenty of cakey things but not much to make a meal with!

She learnt quite a bit from her mum, and then when she had her own house with my dad, she started off on her own, with recipes from newspapers and a few Jane Grigson books.

She did this because she *had* to - there were no ready meal options then. Nowadays, why bother with all the palaver of setting up home/ a kitchen/ learning to cook when you can just buy in some ready meals?

And I think that with the amount of time and money that schools are given to teach this kind of things, they'd be better off driving home the importance of it, and setting homeworks like "go and cook a family meal this week and report back next week" rather than trying to get kids to make pastry.

ZTD

seraphina wrote:

I agree with Queenie and the others - it's not the school's responsibility to teach cookery and other basic life skills. If we do decide it's a school's responsibility to do so we are sliding down a slippery slope of erosion of parental rights and responsibilities.

Schools teach about sex - is food preparation the last taboo?

sproggi

When my daughter wanted to sit her GCSE cookery exam the teachers refused to put her forward for it, not because she could not cook but because she has difficulty with the written work and around 70% of the exam is written!! The teachers admitted that, had the exam been all practical, she would have aced it :mad: Since when has cooking been just 30% practical??
The school finally relented and let her sit the exam, she took great delight in rubbing their noses in her pass:T My daughter was taught to cook at home practically as soon as she could walk.




'Schools teach about sex'

Don't tell me they have practical lessons in that now:eek:

Sproggi

competitionscafe

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote:

why i dont trust the food industry .. is that i have worked i local food factories..... and.....even though one has a soil association cert..... if it runs out of the organic product.... it will pack other product in its place....with the organic packaging.....

That is illegal and fraudulent - and should be reported to the soil association. I would also be tempted to inform the BBC or Channel4 to see if they were prepared to send in an undercover reporter to expose it.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

someone has pm'd me.... and as far as i am aware they are contacting the soil association....

i also reported a company for re-packaging out of date products and re-packaging them..and they were sold on to a high profile shop.....

i reported this to the local council..... and also about the state of the place... and that there were rats in the factory.......

i got told that they could do nothing about the re-packaging..... as it was a best before date... not a use by date......so this company was adding another 18 months onto the use by date.......i dont know what happened about the rats....they were also done for ilegal workers....

i have also worked for a local firm who used to sell chicken and eggs etc as oraganic.. and free range.... they got caught out as they left a paper trail of where they bought their chickens...... they also used to sell all over the country.. and the probs that were used to find out the temp.. were left in the front of the delivery van... and never cleaned from one temp test to another.....
i worked there 3 days.... as a delivery person.....i got sacked becuase i asked to many questions.... as the place was disgusting......

i have worekd in a meat packing plant... where new zealand lamb was packed as welsh lamb... for the supermarkets.....if any meat fell on the floor it suposed to have been put in the contaminated bin... but it was put straight back on the convayor belt.....

these are just a few things.. i have worked in other factories as well... via job agencies.........

so thats why i dont trust the food industry......and its also one food scare after another....

ZTD

sproggi wrote:

'Schools teach about sex'

Don't tell me they have practical lessons in that now:eek:

About as much as the cookery from the sound of it...

COOLTRIKERCHICK

i thought with the undercover programme on tonight on the bbc about what goes on in some supermarkets.. i would bump this old thread.....

even though i dont shop in supermarkets anymore ( use the co-op at the very last resort)

i still dont have faith in the food industry in general...... as at the end of the day you have got to take the sellers word for what they are saying is right...

the only way you are going to guanrentee (sp) is to grow or rear it yourself.....

lil_me

Very good point with trusting the traders CTC, have stopped using both the village store and my local butchers as I have found them lying and doing things which are unhygenic. Store selling things way past the date, sometimes removing the dates! Refreezing food when it's been almost defrosted etc. Local butcher, lied about free range eggs (said sorry they are £2 a dozen but they are free range and they were not!), lied about where the meat comes from, food sometimes stinking as it's off, seen the back of the shop by accident and I was nearly sick!! Farmers market stall, spotted owner in cash and carry buying his stock- nothing like taking advantage of current trends, had wondered how he had so much out of season produce!

To be honest, I think most of this is caused by greed when it comes down to it, I suppose the one thing that is better in a 'supermarket' is loosing a kg of beef because it's gone off (just as example) isn't as important to them as a local trader, therefore the don't need to do it. If I could trust them I would use them..

Hapless_2

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

its the same.. when you see the logo britsh standard....with the tractor......

you automatically think the item is british.... its not.... its play on words and the eye......

How do I know where Red Tractor food comes from?
By law, most food must be labelled with its country of origin on the label although this is not always easy to find. To make things easier we have included a flag in the Red Tractor logo. If you see the Union flag on the Red Tractor logo, you will know that it is home-grown. That is, the food has been produced and packed in the United Kingdom.

http://www.myredtractor.co.uk/site/rtc_faqs.php