csa i really need as much help as possible

kevin137

You need to right and ask for a subject access request. SO you may write something like this...

Dear Sir/Madam,

I wish, under section 7(1) of the 1998 Data Protection Act, to make a Subject Access Request;
ie I wish to see a copy of all the information that your organisation holds about me.
This should include explanation as to how any automated decisions about me have been made.

You should promptly pass this request to your organisation's Data Controller, you have 40 days to respond.

I enclose a cheque for £10 to pay for this.

Yours faithfully

You may ned to out in some more details, like National Insurance No and stuff like that, but that will give you an idea. And make sure you enclose a cheque for the £10 with it, or they will just delay, and write your NI no on the back of that as well...

Dee_Tails

I would be more specific.

FAO The Data Controler
Child Support Agency

Dear Sir/Madam,

RE: Data access request, Account number: XXXXXX


Please provide all information you hold in relation to the above CSA account number. I am the Non Resident Parent.

I am specifically looking for:

1. How the WHOLE liability accrued and not what has accrued in the last 6 years

2. All decisions, clerical actions, comments, correspondence and telephone conversations

3. A written notice of a change of circumstances that the CSA signed for via Royal Mail, but failed to act upon

4. Explanation why the CSA charged £6689.40 in child maintenance for the period 12 May 2004 to 22 March 2011 when I was not working

I enclose a cheque for the statutory fee of £10

Yours faithfully

Light_Speed_Cruiser

peterpumkineater wrote: »

I asked the csa if they would even take a payment of £20 a month which my partner would have to pay as I am still not working but they refused that.

It is very important you keep a record of this.

One of the last lines of enforcement is committal to prison, but the CSA has to prove that you have WILFULLY REFUSED to make payment.

As you have offered to pay £20, that scuppers a CSA committal application and the debt becomes a lost cause for the CSA.

Light_Speed_Cruiser

Give this to your partner.

It was used recently to deal with CSA bailiffs. Complete the details, but do not sign it. Keep the door locked shut at all times and ask the bailiff to push a copy of the demand through the letterbox. While he does that, pass this document out to him and go to a front room window and take his photograph.

To: Bailiffs

BY HAND

10-12-11

Dear Bailiffs,

Re: Your visit to [ADDRESS]

The Child Support Agency appears to have instructed you to recover money from [NAME OF NRP]; however, as he does not own any goods at my address or have any money, peaceful entry to this address is denied and you will have to return the case to the CSA Nulla Bona.

Failure to comply with this request will result in an automatic Form 4 complaint being filed against you at the County Court that issued your bailiffs certificate. The complaint is brought under Section 3 of the Protection from Harassment Act 1997.

Meanwhile, this document was passed to you by hand and a photograph of you standing outside reading it has just been taken as proof of delivery. I now ask that you quietly leave the property.

Yours Faithfully


[NAME]

kapkap

I too am in a similar situation.

I have found a few details and written to the chief executive and commissioner of child maintenance and enforcement to complain about my complete situation.

CSA have a liability order their bailiffs are being deliberately obstructive in letting me make payments.....i had an arrangement in place by dd which they stopped taking on more then 1 occassion, so after countless letters all sent recorded, I made all my payments direct to the CSA by cheque for the last 4 months! out the blue the other day bailiffs turn up!

I have put all case together sent it too chief exec and I am now going to the Citizens advice bureau and solicitor to see what action I can now take as bailiffs have for the last year been deliberately obstructive in allowing me to make payments.

Dont cower to the csa or baillifs take action and be heard in the right way through any legal help you can get! They do make mistakes, they dont act in a manner as such they proclaim to do so, dont be a victim to it all, thats exactly what they want, so you break and pay money.

Bailiffs can only legally take items belonging to you and thats if you let them in. for them to break an entry they have to have an order from the court that grants them permission to do so.

Ignore any bailiffs unless your other wise legally advised, dont answer your door at all and dont leave windows open or doors unlocked at all.

Keep us posted how your getting on

Wasteland_Drifter

I second that, if bailiff gives you trouble, just stick a form 4 on him. That'll give him something to think about.

cosmic-dust

McKneff wrote: »

Could you go back into your post and put some paragraphs in, it's extremely difficult to read. You will get more help by doing this
as people will jst give up reading it.

No offence is intended

Something like this?

I split with my ex in (2004) and got with my new partner. I was working a part time job and paying her maintenance by cheque at the end of every month. Then comes the bomb shell, she went to the CSA saying I owed her money, and a bit later the CSA put an attachment of earnings on my wages, which I was happy to pay. Then I changed job and CSA got back in touch, I told them my new job details.

A year later (2005) I gave up work to take care of my new baby to my new partner. I phoned the CSA and told them that I had given up work to take care of my new son and was told of the operator that this was fine. I told them I would be in touch when I got a new job, that’s fine the operator said to me. I also asked if it was possible to take money off my partner’s wages to pay for my son and was told that wasn't possible to do, so I left it like that. A few weeks later I received a letter from the CSA with what I am supposed to pay. I had already informed them that I had left work so I called them again and informed them again.
After that it went quite for a while, then out the blue yet another letter comes, I thought must be a mis print as they had been informed twice now.

I later moved to a new house with my son and partner we lived there for a year and never heard anything from them. I thought all was good with it, we later moved again.
After a further year no news from the CSA, which was good. We moved again after 2 years still, nothing at all from the CSA. I thought all was good yet again.

Then my partner and I separated as things didn't work for us and she moved out and left my son with me to bring up. About a year later I was going to move in with another new partner. My sons’ mum said I wasn't to take him away from her, so I asked him if he would like to live with his mum. He said he would, so he moved in with her and I moved down with my new partner.

I was with my new partner for about 3 weeks and bang a bomb shell! I got a letter from the CSA saying that I owed £6689.40 for the period 12 may 2004 to 22 mar 2011. I knew this was wrong as I hadn’t worked. My ex had been the bread winner in our family, and they couldn't touch her wages at all. I was told this by the operator.

I phoned them up and was told it was going to the enforcement department, so I phoned them up and I told them I still wasn’t working. I had been in full time care of my youngest son. I also mentioned the phone calls I had made earlier on in 2004 to them and was told there was no record of the calls on there system.

So it went to the enforcement department. I got another letter saying they were going to take me to court for a liability order against me, so I phoned them up yet again and told them I don't owe that much and asked them to recalculate it. Got told the calculations were right. They took me to Dover court which is miles away from where I live and couldn't get to to prove my point they got there liability order over me I now have bailiffs coming to the house for a debt I don't owe.

I was told by citizen’s advice the CSA would need proof I was working before they could apply to the court for a liability order. I then phoned them and asked them about it which they said was untrue, citizens advice was basically lying.

I got no further forward with them and still have bailiffs coming to take all of my partners stuff from the house.
When I moved down I just brought my clothes how can that be fair, she doesn’t owe them anything!

The CSA is a big joke in its self. They need to learn to do their jobs properly and stop blaming the father. They need to listen to both sides of the story, there are two parties not just the mothers.

My eldest child’s mum ran off with him, with no contact at all to let me know where she had moved to and changed her mobile number. I haven't seen him in 8 years. Where is the justice in that?

I sent my bank statements into the CSA to prove I have not worked since September 2005 which they said they never received, even though I had the post office recorded receipt and proof that someone signed for them.

I had to send them again and once they did look through them they said they were only going to go back till April 2010.

My new partner and I have made loads of phone calls to them, been to citizens advice, tried to get a solicitor which I was told a solicitor would not be able to deal with the case as it is classed as a debt even though I do not owe that amount.

I asked the CSA if they would even take a payment of £20 a month which my partner would have to pay as I am still not working but they refused that.

They said the payment had to be cleared in 2 years which is impossible for me to do.

Please help, I do not know what else to do. I am at my wits end, have severe depression and can not cope with this any longer.

My relationship is breaking down because of the bailiffs due to come to the house and possibly she may lose all her belongings as I am living there. She has 2 sons herself. This is really not fair on them or me. I would be grateful if you could advise or help in anyway

sarahk100574

I'm not an NRP basher.... BUT the figures and timeframe you have given suggest that you are being hounded by CSA/bailiffs etc etc, and all for about twenty quid a week towards the cost of raising your first born child... perhaps if you hadn't spent so much energy on schemes and plans to get out of paying towards YOUR first child you wouldn't be in this position.....

Man up and pay it..... just saying.....:D

jojo_2012_2

sarahk100574 wrote: »

I'm not an NRP basher.... BUT the figures and timeframe you have given suggest that you are being hounded by CSA/bailiffs etc etc, and all for about twenty quid a week towards the cost of raising your first born child... perhaps if you hadn't spent so much energy on schemes and plans to get out of paying towards YOUR first child you wouldn't be in this position.....

Man up and pay it..... just saying.....:D

ha! that's all I read too. "I ran here, I ran there for a year and told nobody, I quit my job, now I'm poncing off some bird". It's been 8 years get a job and pay for your child as you were supposed to.

Wasteland_Drifter

sarahk100574 wrote: »

all for about twenty quid a week towards the cost of raising your first born child... perhaps if you hadn't spent so much energy on schemes and plans to get out of paying towards YOUR first child you wouldn't be in this position.....

Man up and pay it..... just saying.....:D

Reading the original post again, I dont sense any deliberate intention to get out of paying, In fact, I see quite the opposite....

I asked the csa if they would even take a payment of £20 a month which my partner would have to pay as I am still not working but they refused that.