Rich get richer, poor get poorer

Mallotum_X

MrRee wrote: »

Come on now, think about it .... why would anyone be jealous of anyone with no property to call their own, a burger flippin job and sitting on here all hours? :rotfl:

In your case I guess its the lack of any job, human contact, a wasted life. I know your bedsit is home but most people aspire to do better.

Have you tried speaking to Age UK, im sure they could help you with the depression and self loathing.

DaddyBear

Graham_Devon wrote: »

And the UK has sen the fastest pace of growing inequality since the 1980's out of 22 countries.

So what can be done? Well apparently investing in "better quality jobs" will help. I assume they mean manufacturing etc.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16012293

It should read: the rich are getting richer and paying less tax, the poor are getting more for doing less, and those in the middle are getting fu*k*d from every angle.

IronWolf

The poor havent got poorer, the poor have got richer. People complained about the gap between the rich and poor in Thatcher's era and her rebutal can't be faulted. Socialists would rather everyone be poorer, than the rich poor gap increase, even if the poor get richer as a result.

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel or envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill.

cepheus

Masomnia wrote: »

Just deport the top 10%, then we'd be more equal. Problem solved.

They are constantly threatening to deport themselves, but somehow they always get offered more to stay.

cepheus

Every major income group has become better off. Surely this is what we expect since technology advances irrespective of economic conditions, and technology is the ultimate supplier of material wealth. However, differences in incomes between the rich and poor have widened and this represents how rich or poor someone feels.

Masomnia

Flight2quality wrote: »

What can be done? A return to honest money for a start, with no anchor there is no limit to how much currency can be abused and wealth transfered to those with the power to create currency and give to those they choose.

Honest money?

kabayiri

There has always been a big divide between the rich and poor going back through the ages.

Generally speaking though, the poor could rely on the rich to employ them in the farms and factories, and in turn the rich would spend some of their money on services provided by poorer people.

It's slightly different now, and I would argue more worrying.

The rich here still make a lot of their money from the poor consuming goods and services. However, there are really no constraints on where the rich choose to spend their money. Notable high profile rich people prefer to spend it in the shops of Monaco et al. Also, the rich do not rely on the labour of the poor in this country any more.

FTBFun

Masomnia wrote: »

Honest money?

Silver, basically. Its always silver.

Mr_Mumble

The "poor" are far wealthier than they were 30 years ago but that wealth is not measured by income but from government provided services.

A simple example: the NHS spent 4.5% of UK GDP at the end of Thatcher's reign compared to 8.5% of GDP now. The NHS spends £2,000 per annum per person in the UK (the numbers work out surprisingly cleanly here: £126bn in spending this year with a population of 63m). The real cost of the NHS is 90% higher now than it was even 20 years ago and most of the value provided by this is captured by the "poor". The elderly are those benefiting from the NHS the most followed by young families - many of which are from relatively poor recent immigrants.

The poverty industry wants to have its cake of increased wealth equality and then eating the scrummy cake again by then saying that the government imposed equality increases income inequality. Until the "poor" realise this ruse income inequality is likely to keep on rising.

toby3000

Mr_Mumble wrote: »

A simple example: the NHS spent 4.5% of UK GDP at the end of Thatcher's reign compared to 8.5% of GDP now. The NHS spends £2,000 per annum per person in the UK (the numbers work out surprisingly cleanly here: £126bn in spending this year with a population of 63m). The real cost of the NHS is 90% higher now than it was even 20 years ago and most of the value provided by this is captured by the "poor". The elderly are those benefiting from the NHS the most followed by young families - many of which are from relatively poor recent immigrants.

Does the NHS collect any statistics on this sort of thing? The only news stories I've ever seen on this are about how middle-class families tend to be better at getting healthcare than the poor people.