Broken window in tenanted property

DVardysShadow

casper_g wrote: »

Surely no 2-year-old boiler has a pilot light?

How old does a boiler have to be before you can trust it with a pilot light?

DVardysShadow

clutton wrote: »

"" I think its unreasonable to expect the tenant to keep the gas meter in credit 100% of the time.""

as a LL i think it is eminently reasonable to expect a tenant to keep the gas meter in credit.... especially if by not doing so an engineer visit is necessary....

That is heading towards micromanagement of the tenant's finances. The reasonable expectation is for the tenant to manage meter and boiler so that callouts do not arise from the meter running out.

DVardysShadow

tbs624 wrote: »

If the ex boyfriend's FB account is restricted then the LL simply opening her own FB account will not mean that she would be able to access his personal pages. Only his FB "friends" will be able to do that.

T should have insisted that the police recorded it as a crime and obtained a reference number. LL then claims on insurance policy. Sounds mighty like Plod not wanting the paperwork in this case.

If "rioters" can be hauled into court over the content of their social networking pages then so can other petty criminals. I should imagine that the ex has now deleted that original comment.

If the circumstances are that the ex BF randomly committed this act from the street then this person is not a "visitor" to the property in the usual sense of the term within a tenancy agreement. It's a nonsense to suggest otherwise. I would suggest to any T that they challenge a LL seeking to pull the costs back from the tenancy deposit in those circs.

Had he actually been at the property by invitation of the T, had a row whilst there and then kicked the window in on leaving the premises then I would however expect the T or her insurance to deal with it and be making their own decision over how to pursue the ex BF for recompense..

Yes, poor show from the police. But then the OP and her tenant do not represent big business and they don't have a baying press on their side.

But on a bit of reflection over the other things we have learned about this tenant, I do wonder whether OP has actually been told the whole and nothing but truth.

• Is there another explanation for the window being broken?
• Or more to it?
• Or the ex bf being stitched up?
• Could it actually have been tenant's ex, who might have a history but daughter's bf blamed, because no one wants a tenant with a problematic ex?
• Was it actually reported to police?
• Did the police actually advise as reported?

All speculation, but I am feeling less inclined to take things at face value.

angelsmomma

DVardysShadow wrote: »

Yes, poor show from the police. But then the OP and her tenant do not represent big business and they don't have a baying press on their side.

But on a bit of reflection over the other things we have learned about this tenant, I do wonder whether OP has actually been told the whole and nothing but truth.

• Is there another explanation for the window being broken?
• Or more to it?
• Or the ex bf being stitched up?
• Could it actually have been tenant's ex, who might have a history but daughter's bf blamed, because no one wants a tenant with a problematic ex?
• Was it actually reported to police?
• Did the police actually advise as reported?

All speculation, but I am feeling less inclined to take things at face value.

Hi, I will answer this and I do appreciate all the input given.

To clarify some of your points. This property is approximately 2 minutes walk from my home, I used to live there so know all the neighbours well including the tenants best friend who lives opposite and is also a friend of mine.

I do know that the things I have said are true, I saw the facebook page from the daughters account when I was called to the house. I have the log numbers for both incidents. The threats to kill and the threats to break the windows.

The tenant does not have an ex, she lives with the childrens father and they are both on the tenancy agreement.

The police are not known for dealing with criminal damage by children/youths where I live so I am not in the least surprised by them not acting on this.

I am happy to keep the tenant as I stated in an earlier post. I have had teenage daughters myself and remember how hard it was.

johnbusby

Eton_Rifle wrote: »

I think you've missed the point of a money saving forum!

Okay I will bite

I don't think that you understand the spirit of this forum. It is certainly not to offer ways to shaft tenants just because they don't know any better.

I don't think many would disagree that if this went to deposit scheme arbitration that the tenant would win comfortably (for good reason). They obviously don't know this and the LL is taking advantage which is his prerogative. In my opinion that is not money saving, its immoral.

dodger1

Eton_Rifle wrote: »

I think you've missed the point of a money saving forum!

This is not a specific money saving forum, there are money saving forums on this site but this is not one of them.

tbs624

angelsmomma wrote: »

Hi, I will answer this and I do appreciate all the input given.

To clarify some of your points. This property is approximately 2 minutes walk from my home, I used to live there so know all the neighbours well including the tenants best friend who lives opposite and is also a friend of mine.

I do know that the things I have said are true, I saw the facebook page from the daughters account when I was called to the house. I have the log numbers for both incidents. The threats to kill and the threats to break the windows.
The tenant does not have an ex, she lives with the childrens father and they are both on the tenancy agreement.

The police are not known for dealing with criminal damage by children/youths where I live so I am not in the least surprised by them not acting on this.

"Threat to kill" as well as a spot of threatened ( & apparently executed) criminal damage? In that case, the police reaction appears to have been insufficient - formal complaint should be made and the local Councillor & MP involved.

You say you have "log numbers" so presumably you mean that the police have in fact made a formal record of the incident, including the damage caused?

If yes, then your insurer should be coughing up and not the T. Yes, you may have a policy excess to pay but (a) this is what your insurance is for and (b) you can set that excess down on your tax form.

This part has to be dealt with separately from issues with boilers,leaks and paint on paths etc. IMO some posters seem to have decided that this is a "certain sort" of T and that she should therefore be punished more harshly for a misdemeanour not of her making, simply because it comes on the back of other issues which *were* apparently down to her actions/omissions

johnbusby

Eton_Rifle wrote: »

I'm not sure you are in a position to take the moral high ground given your obvious prejudice so I'd abandon that tack if I were you!

Didn't realise I had any :rotfl:

Care to elaborate?

greenface

Is the double glazed unit less than 800mm from the ground (inside or out) or in a classed dangerous position (within 200mm of a porch or door ) did it need to be toughened (was it) What have you been quoted to replace ??

jamie11

Eton_Rifle wrote: »

I agree. Let's not forget this forum's main purpose is to undermine house sellers and castigate landlords! :rotfl:

Really? There was me thinking it was to give good advice to people, be they tenants or landlords. Silly me.