Help with possesions after moving out !

BitterAndTwisted

londonsurrey wrote: »

The question was about the legal position of the person left holding the baby, so to speak.

We don't know anything about the weeks/months/years of arguments and stress leading up to someone wanting to get rid of the items. What we do know is they are not the one who has reneged on a contract, even though it is possibly just a verbal one.

The former occupier has
- failed to pay
- stropped off and failed to take any responsibility for informing the people left with his possessions which are now occupying a space, and accruing rent which the landlord has little confidence of regaining

The landlord would simply like to know what she can do with said possessions without breaking the law. Not an unreasonable request.

If the "landlord" was a conventional one I might agree with you but said "landlord" is a family member. Contracts between family members are a tad difficult to define and/or enforce.

In this particular situation very mysteriously the family appear to be wanting to behave rather unreasonably and incredibly spitefully indeed.

londonsurrey

Why are you assuming it's a poor little son/daughter?

If it turned out to be a black sheep uncle who was taken in because he'd fallen on hard times, and then they found out that he was homeless precisely because he's a !!!!less individual who had alienated everyone else he'd scrounged off, was a total slob, didn't cover himself up properly when the young daughter of the house was about, and oh, there are drugs in the room too. Would that make a difference?

londonsurrey

The edited word was "f", "e", "c", "k", "l", "e", "s", "s", which is not an obscene word. Lol.

McKneff

I find it extremely sad that families can be like this with each other.

Just use the bed and the telly and when whoever gets them selves settled give them their things back, it could be the making or
bringing back the family back together again. Put the little things in boxes and put them in the loft or somewhere, try not to be spiteful, its a very negative emotion.

jtr2803

This forum does make me chuckle at times. I have read countless threads where a parent has been told that their son/daughter of a certain age should be paying rent/keep/lodging amounts even though the child doesn't want to, because it's the 'real world'. Now we have someone who has possibly rightly requested a contribution to the cost of providing a home and not been given it so has made the decision to ask them to leave.

If there is no valid reason why this person shouldn't be contributing then good on the parents! Just because someone is family it doesn't give them the right to take financial or emotional advantage and it's a shame that people here are suggesting otherwise, because it's 'family'. I have the most ungrateful brother in the world who gives my mum the most minimal of contributions towards food/heating, eats her out of house and home and expects his ironing and washing done. If that wasn't bad enough he talks to her like absolute dirt, I've told her to kick him out plenty of times.

Let's not judge the people described in the OP.

MichaelCR

Thanks for your replies !

Interesting a lot of you jump on the old 'Band wagon' Of nice family etc etc, You'll actually find my mother suffers from bi-polar disorder And works her !!!! off in order to keep a roof over our heads, As do I, and my other brother, However the person in question couldn't be bothered with working, Paying in, Instead he'd spend his job seekers allowance down the local boozer ! (He's 26 Years old and hasn't worked for 2 years)

He did not pay any rent for the 4 months he lived here although he promised he would, Money went missing (£800ish), We also had him here for a few months in 2010 in which money went missing and also he refused to pay in after staying here for 3 months, In which case he owes my mum around £700 !

I didn't ask for anyone's opinions, I just wanted help in relation to the issue of his possessions.

He's only left a 47inch LED tv, Double Bed, and a few other items that are cluttering up space, We've given him plenty of notice to move his possessions, However he has yet to reply, and he is slandering my mother on facebook, So why should we as a family allow him to have possessions back ? All i wanted to know was the law based on this, I just find it a shame that certain members here would rather jump to conclusions and slate others when they have no idea on the inner details, Nor does their comments reflect the question i asked.

Kay_Peel

Who's judging?

Your question was:

" We where told by someone that after 28 days of being 'Evicted' the possesions are no longer his, However i heard it can be 6 weeks, and i heard off someone else it could be 2 weeks.

Can anyone shed any light on this ?"

Your question showed that you were confused about your rights to deal with property, under the civil law. You talked of 'eviction' when there hadn't been an eviction. You wanted some sort of legal advice, I suppose, but the key point is that the family member is neither a lodger nor a tenant, and your parent isn't a landlord.

This is what the CAB says about dealing with property that is apparently abandoned:


http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/your_world/consumer_affairs/keeping_lost_found_and_uncollected_goods.htm#Uncollected_or_abandoned_goods

dirtysexymonkey

MichaelCR wrote: »

Thanks for your replies !

Interesting a lot of you jump on the old 'Band wagon' Of nice family etc etc, You'll actually find my mother suffers from bi-polar disorder And works her !!!! off in order to keep a roof over our heads, As do I, and my other brother, However the person in question couldn't be bothered with working, Paying in, Instead he'd spend his job seekers allowance down the local boozer ! (He's 26 Years old and hasn't worked for 2 years)

He did not pay any rent for the 4 months he lived here although he promised he would, Money went missing (£800ish), We also had him here for a few months in 2010 in which money went missing and also he refused to pay in after staying here for 3 months, In which case he owes my mum around £700 !

I didn't ask for anyone's opinions, I just wanted help in relation to the issue of his possessions.

He's only left a 47inch LED tv, Double Bed, and a few other items that are cluttering up space, We've given him plenty of notice to move his possessions, However he has yet to reply, and he is slandering my mother on facebook, So why should we as a family allow him to have possessions back ? All i wanted to know was the law based on this, I just find it a shame that certain members here would rather jump to conclusions and slate others when they have no idea on the inner details, Nor does their comments reflect the question i asked.

sounds like you just want to keep his possessions for yourself. they are still his possessions - not yours.

you sound very stuck up too. im finding it hard to believe that you had him stay for three months where he allegedly stole from you and didnt pay anything, but then you had him back. doesnt make sense.

perhaps your mothers mental illness has passed down to him and he deals with it differently? did that enter your head? i cant see why your mother being bipolar affects anything at all other than being a plea for sympathy for you.

j.e.j.

MichaelCR wrote: »

Thanks for your replies !

Interesting a lot of you jump on the old 'Band wagon' Of nice family etc etc, You'll actually find my mother suffers from bi-polar disorder And works her !!!! off in order to keep a roof over our heads, As do I, and my other brother, However the person in question couldn't be bothered with working, Paying in, Instead he'd spend his job seekers allowance down the local boozer ! (He's 26 Years old and hasn't worked for 2 years)

He did not pay any rent for the 4 months he lived here although he promised he would, Money went missing (£800ish), We also had him here for a few months in 2010 in which money went missing and also he refused to pay in after staying here for 3 months, In which case he owes my mum around £700 !

I didn't ask for anyone's opinions, I just wanted help in relation to the issue of his possessions.

He's only left a 47inch LED tv, Double Bed, and a few other items that are cluttering up space, We've given him plenty of notice to move his possessions, However he has yet to reply, and he is slandering my mother on facebook, So why should we as a family allow him to have possessions back ? All i wanted to know was the law based on this, I just find it a shame that certain members here would rather jump to conclusions and slate others when they have no idea on the inner details, Nor does their comments reflect the question i asked.

Kay Peel's link has a lot of useful info regarding uncollected items. However, I think that if he has stolen hundreds of pounds and owes money for rent the chances of him being able to claim money from you in the event that you sold his bed and tv would be slim. Be prepared in case he tries, though!!

You can deal with the Facebook comments (possible defamation of character?) as a seperate issue.

rizla01

As I see it, if you are owed money then you are allowed to seize goods in lieu of that debt.

You would need to give him, in writing, a reasonable period to repay the debt or you are within your rights to sell his items in order to get back what is owed. If the amount you receive is not enough then it is up to you to sue him.

You MUST be able to SHOW that you have given him every chance possible to pay up.

It is surprising how different some people are 10 years later so if he is close family (Brother Etc) be wary.

If he is a BIL, cousin or other 'outside' relative and scum then he should act with more respect so get him out of your life for good.