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Pension Age Going Up and Strikes Public Sector

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  • Koicarp
    Koicarp Posts: 323 Forumite
    edited 22 December 2011 at 2:38PM
    Re: fitness for work in old age this is from the "heads of agreement":
    4. These changes may impact more on certain categories of staff within the
    NHS. As a result, it is agreed to set up a tripartite review between DH,
    NHS Employers and the NHS Trade Unions on addressing the impact of
    working longer in the NHS with particular reference to staff in frontline
    and physically demanding roles including emergency services.

    I'm aware a consultant (working beyond current SPA) in A&E was removed from the job this week, just couldn't think quick enough.
  • Koicarp wrote: »
    One other thing nobody seems to have mentioned is that those TUPE'd out of the NHS will be able to remain as active members, that is a BIG win for the unions with the current pace of privatisation.

    The practicalities of that should prove interesting. Presumably some ex-public sector workers on FS pensions lining up alongside newer employees with much inferior (if any) pension provision.

    Could that eventually lead to pay differentials to compensate ?
  • Koicarp
    Koicarp Posts: 323 Forumite
    Average salary pension!
    But agree, looks interesting. Many of my colleagues have a pretty short term view and would come out of the pension if they were offered a few quid by a new employer anyway.
  • Andy_L
    Andy_L Posts: 13,080 Forumite
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    The practicalities of that should prove interesting. Presumably some ex-public sector workers on FS pensions lining up alongside newer employees with much inferior (if any) pension provision.

    Could that eventually lead to pay differentials to compensate ?

    many of the past contractorisation exercise obliged the new employer to provide a "broadly comparable" pension to transferees rather than the fairly minimal standard required under TUPE so its not that new.

    Annecedotally the transferees are either really needed by the new employer due to specialist skills/knowledge in which case they are happy to pay "big bucks" for them (or buy them out into a new contract) or, if they are not that essential they just them stagnant in pay terms until they leave/kick them out under ET&O reasons
  • Old_Slaphead
    Old_Slaphead Posts: 2,749 Forumite
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    edited 22 December 2011 at 3:32PM
    Koicarp wrote: »
    Average salary pension!

    Ooops, thanks for the correction - I meant "some ex public sector workers on partFS/partAS pensions" (pity the payroll/pension dept!) :)
    if they are not that essential they just them stagnant in pay terms until they leave

    I suspect that's the downside of any TUPE'd deal
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