Son's teacher needs to go back to school

meritaten

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

It's not about assigning numbers to circles; it's about using logic.

You know that computer you are using; it uses Logic in it's design [Boolean Algebra - True/False statements]. Without it we would have no computers.

Yes, but my computer DOES know < > greater than and less than! so do I!

you cannot teach logic with a faulty premise!

So dont try patronising me Sambucus - There is a reason WHY children are leaving school without basic maths skills - and that COULD be because the teaching is unnecessarily complicated!
my four year old grandson had to learn a sheet of shapes - circles, rectangles, etc???????????? NO they were Tetrahydrons etc! !!!!!!! he barely knows squares etc - stop rushing kids education and filling thier heads with stuff too advanced for them - let them learn the basics until its as natural as breathing! then let them explore the math world!
I didnt understand any of it until I was in my forties - now I finally grasp the basics I love it!

Bennifred

I know a primary school teacher who took three attempts to achieve Grade C at GCSE - I wonder how she explains a subject she has such a poor undersstanding of.....

Sambucus_Nigra

meritaten wrote: »

Yes, but my computer DOES know < > greater than and less than! so do I!

you cannot teach logic with a faulty premise!

So dont try patronising me Sambucus - There is a reason WHY children are leaving school without basic maths skills - and that COULD be because the teaching is unnecessarily complicated!

I'm not - you were being a little silly by saying that this is about circles and numbers. The computer knows it because the programmers [humans] wrote the logic programs in the first place.

This is not complicated stuff! Hence the OP getting a little annoyed when the teacher gets it wrong.

claire16c

Caroline_a wrote: »

Goodness! I come in, log on to the forum and find all in Marriages, Relationship and Families doing maths! Well done you lot!

(and <30 does mean less than 30, or at least it did when I was at uni!)

it doesnt say <30 on the sheet it says >30, which is greater than.

meritaten wrote: »

Yes, but my computer DOES know < > greater than and less than! so do I!

you cannot teach logic with a faulty premise!

So dont try patronising me Sambucus - There is a reason WHY children are leaving school without basic maths skills - and that COULD be because the teaching is unnecessarily complicated!
my four year old grandson had to learn a sheet of shapes - circles, rectangles, etc???????????? NO they were Tetrahydrons etc! !!!!!!! he barely knows squares etc - stop rushing kids education and filling thier heads with stuff too advanced for them - let them learn the basics until its as natural as breathing! then let them explore the math world!
I didnt understand any of it until I was in my forties - now I finally grasp the basics I love it!

A 4 year old barely knows squares? Id be worried about that. Squares, circles etc, I would expect a 2-3 year old to know/be learning. Even my 2 year old niece knows what a hexagon is from nursery.

rachbc

tetrahedrons are 3 dimensional shapes- totally different from square, circle etc- tetrahedrons are not complex shapes and I imagine would be in the first group of 3 d shapes learnt along with sphere, cylinders, cubes etc etc - just cos its a big word doesn't mean its a difficult concept for a 4 yo to grasp.

halibut2209

My littlest (3 years old bless him) teaches himself! God bless the iPad. He's taught himself all his numbers and letters. He's taught himself to say the alphabet.

Though he is still a little weird. He's been wearing the same bobble hat for the last 9 days. Constantly. Even when sleeping.

I should send him in to correct the teacher!

onlyroz

halibut2209 wrote: »

Even numbers less than 31 go in the left
Even numbers greater than 30 go in the middle
Odd numbers greater than 30 go in the right
Odd numbers less than 31 go outside both circles

Yes, I think you've got it right here.

As a programmer I always think of < and > in programming terms. E.g you get things like:

while (i > 10)
i.e. "while i is greater than 10"

or

for (i = 1; i < 10; i++)
i.e. "i starts at 1 and increments until i is 9"

thegirlintheattic

halibut2209 wrote: »

Not really cos he had to do multiplication

Chunking is now used to teach multiplication and division. Although in some schools chunking for multiplication is called gridding or the grid method. One of the major problems primary schools have is parents teaching long division and multiplication at home and the kids then getting very confused.

This explains how multiplication is taught very well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMLf6sQLa40

This explains division using chunking:
http://www.youtube.com/user/annakono#p/a/u/0/eF4h76R99_Q

EDIT: I should probably point out that the methods are different but in some primaries the multiplication method is called chunking. Chunking method can be reversed for multiplication as well I believe.

As for the original OP - point this out to the teacher and see what she says. If this is a one off I wouldn't be majorly concerned.

gunsandbanjos

I love maths:D





**i'll get my coat...

Mupette

halibut2209 wrote: »

Not really cos he had to do multiplication

they have the full works there

http://www.mad4maths.com/parents/