Lodgers' rights to have guests

jamie11

Me too. What's wrong with taking your guests out to a restaurant? Not everyone wants their facilities used by a complete bunch of strangers, and that's without even mentioning the security aspect of having strangers in the house.

BitterAndTwisted

I think you're being very inconsiderate. You should never have invited people round without asking politely for permission first. I'd be looking to ask you to leave pretty soon. You're aware that you can be asked to leave with as little as 24 hours notice, aren't you?

BigAunty

I do sympathise - this type of accommodation arrangement that comes from being a lodger can have restrictions on privacy and social activities because you have to adhere to the rules of the live-in landlord, so it's not for everyone.

As it's clear that the arrangement is not working out, it's probably time to move on and get your own self contained property. With it comes greater expense but greater freedom.

Do you have your own entrance? Do you share any communal space with the landlords? Sometimes, the accommodation is so separate that some residents with lodgers agreements actually have tenants rights.

poppysarah

Define extension...
Are you inside their house or is it a self contained bit?

GDB2222

poppysarah wrote: »

Define extension...
Are you inside their house or is it a self contained bit?

My thought exactly. You have your own front door, or all the guests are traipsing through the owner's part of the house?

zurpher

Our 'rent' is only slightly below market. It seems to me that it is not worth it to give up your rights as a tenant (which are already fairly limited in England). Landlords should not only want the money but also except that they have people living in their property which goes beyond just sleeping under a roof.

I understand that many of you seem to be property owners yourself and therefore take a rather one-sided view.

hazyjo wrote: »

What did you agree at the start?

They have mentioned no parties but we understood it as a proper party and not merely having three or more friends over.

pimento wrote: »

How many is a larger group?

Where will your landlord go while you're hosting your dinner party?

A larger group is around 8 people for me.

Our landlords have a complete house for themselves as we live in a separate extension. They can stay in their house and do whatever they enjoy doing.

BigAunty wrote: »

Do you have your own entrance? Do you share any communal space with the landlords? Sometimes, the accommodation is so separate that some residents with lodgers agreements actually have tenants rights.

We have a separate entrance. We have a bedroom, living room, dining room and bathroom to ourselves. We also have a kitchen that is mainly for our use but they use storage in that room and therefore come in more regularly. When we first viewed it, it felt like a proper flat.

poppysarah

Do you have a tenancy agreement? Do you pay council tax?

If it's a sep property then you can have as many parties as you like.

Badger_Lady

So it sounds like you have a lot of space to yourselves, and could in fact host parties without it causing trouble to your landlords.

BUT because it isn't technically a separate premises, you don't have the rights of a tenant.

In that case, legally you have the right to move out. You still don't have the right to breach the rules set down by the landlord, but if you don't like them you can find something fully self-contained.

girleight@

http://www.lodgerlandlord.co.uk/2010/03/09/the-five-main-differences-between-a-lodger-and-a-tenant/

BitterAndTwisted

If it's a separate property with no shared kitchen and bathroom and you have your own front-door you are very unlikely indeed to be lodgers but tenants.

As you described yourself as lodgers it was rightly assumed that you had a couple of rooms in the extension for your own use but shared the front-door and some facilities with your landlord. Under that circumstance you were guilty of misleading posters (albeit unwittingly) so you should not assume that everyone who has posted things on here which were unwelcome is their fault for misunderstanding and not yours for being unclear.

Have your party. It's none of your landlord's business who you invite or when as long as you don't disturb them. In the meantime be fully prepared to be given notice when your tenancy ends. Have you signed some sort of agreement with them?