http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1535

fwor

Meeper wrote: »

Get off your high horse. Glad you don't work in the Treasury. Are you from the old Soviet Union? Rant over.

You used a lot of words, but you still didn't address the fact that CPI is not, and was never designed to be, a reflection of the way that inflation impacts pensioners. You mention things that are excluded (council tax - are you serious?) but what about things like heating costs and public transport/taxis where pensioners are likely to pay ~more~ than average?

There was no analysis by the government - just a decision based on "it's cheaper".

Andy_L

Koicarp wrote: »

Wasn't this Lord Hutton's idea?

No, Hutton accepted the CPI/RPI switch & the +3% contributions as a "done-deal" in his report

Interested_Taxpayer

fwor wrote: »

You used a lot of words, but you still didn't address the fact that CPI is not, and was never designed to be, a reflection of the way that inflation impacts pensioners. You mention things that are excluded (council tax - are you serious?) but what about things like heating costs and public transport/taxis where pensioners are likely to pay ~more~ than average?

There was no analysis by the government - just a decision based on "it's cheaper".

Yes you are absolutely right fwor. Have a read of what the experts say about the CPI.

http://www.straightstatistics.org/article/rpi-vs-cpi-row-goes

The Government and in particular Osborne and Co know this and when the switch took place without any consultation they hoped not many would notice this stealth robbery. Well they have been rumbled now!

Count now stands at almost 83,700.

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1535

Sign the petition NOW and get everybody you know to do likewise. Together we can put this wrong to right for Private Sector and Public Sector pensioners!!

Meeper

No, you can't. Getting an e-petition to 100,000 signatures doesn't mean anything other than there will be a debate in the house about it and some back-bench MP's will pick up the cause and "fight for the will of the people", but it will ultimately get nowhere because the debates have already gone through the house twice.

Interested_Taxpayer

Meeper wrote: »

No, you can't. Getting an e-petition to 100,000 signatures doesn't mean anything other than there will be a debate in the house about it and some back-bench MP's will pick up the cause and "fight for the will of the people", but it will ultimately get nowhere because the debates have already gone through the house twice.

Well we shall have to see.
100,000 signatures is our first target. Getting the debate is the second. Third is exposing the Condem Government for the lying cheating low life human beings they are. Remember they have no mandate from the people.
Also, don't forget it's not only Private and Public Sector pensioners who have been robbed but millions of State pensioners as well.
The Great Osborne Pension Robbery must be derailed.

Meeper

Interested_Taxpayer wrote: »

Well we shall have to see.
100,000 signatures is our first target. Getting the debate is the second.

You get the debate with the 100,000 signatures. That's the purpose of it. What did you think it was for?

Third is exposing the Condem Government for the lying cheating low life human beings they are. Remember they have no mandate from the people.

Yeah yeah, good luck with that. You have your political stance, other people have theirs, your opinion is no more or less valid than anyone else's, so unfortunately, there's nothing you're going to be able to do about this. Exposing the government indeed. Best of luck!

Also, don't forget it's not only Private and Public Sector pensioners who have been robbed but millions of State pensioners as well.
The Great Osborne Pension Robbery must be derailed.

Yes, everyone has been robbed, everything is George Osborne's fault.

Interestingly, the Bank of England, the IMF and the CBI all say that we're on the right track for recovery. The UK has grown more in the last quarter than almost every other country in Europe, and as fast as the USA. Things are finally looking like they might be turning around.

Unless, of course, you mean to say that it was Professor Plum in the library with the revolver. In which case yes, everyone is evil and there are conspiracies abound to thwart the British public and steal their money.

Get a clue.

DCodd

Meeper wrote: »

Interestingly, the Bank of England, the IMF and the CBI all say that we're on the right track for recovery. The UK has grown more in the last quarter than almost every other country in Europe, and as fast as the USA. Things are finally looking like they might be turning around.

Get a clue.

That is not saying much, especially when you consider that our economy only grew by 0.5% and the majority of that was due to the large manufacturers "restocking" and Government spending.

chris_m

Meeper wrote: »

You get the debate with the 100,000 signatures.

Not quite - 100K signatures simply means that the petition is passed to the Backbench Business Committee, which determines whether it should be debated in the House and, if so, when it can be fitted in around other Parliamentary business.

It does not guarantee a debate, nor anything more than that.

fwor

Meeper wrote: »

Get a clue.

There must be a purpose to your posts on this thread, but I can't figure out what it is.

Your attitude is the archetypal "I'm alright Jack" one. You've obviously decided that the change won't hurt your pension, and you don't care if other people's pensions are damaged.

If you don't agree with the OP that it's wrong to implement a measure of inflation that systematically and deliberately erodes a group of people's pensions every year - whether the economy is in trouble or has fully recovered - then it's simple: Don't sign the petition.

Meeper

fwor wrote: »

There must be a purpose to your posts on this thread, but I can't figure out what it is.

How ironic.

Your attitude is the archetypal "I'm alright Jack" one. You've obviously decided that the change won't hurt your pension, and you don't care if other people's pensions are damaged.

I appreciate your right to that opinion, incorrect as it is.

If you don't agree with the OP that it's wrong to implement a measure of inflation that systematically and deliberately erodes a group of people's pensions every year - whether the economy is in trouble or has fully recovered - then it's simple: Don't sign the petition.

If you don't agree with me about anything that I have written then it's simple: Don't reply to my posts.