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Npower sign online 20 ending when can I start to switch?

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PsiDOC
PsiDOC Posts: 354 Forumite
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HI all.
Simple question. I am on Npower's Sign online 20 tarrif that finishes on 31st December. Have looked about and Npower are simply not competitive any more so am looking to switch to EDF.
When would be the right time to initiate the switch request online as I don't want Npower hitting me for £40 early termination fees if it switches to EDF before the 31st Dec.

Thanks.

Psi
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  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    Normal switch time is 4-5 weeks.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • jalexa
    jalexa Posts: 3,448 Forumite
    edited 20 November 2011 at 12:17PM
    PsiDOC wrote: »
    Have looked about and Npower are simply not competitive any more so am looking to switch to EDF...

    ... I don't want Npower hitting me for £40 early termination fees if it switches to EDF before the 31st Dec.

    Be aware that if you are on a "deferred discount":eek: tariff (likely) you may forfeit any deferred discount if you switch before the discount is earned.

    Though I don't normally advocate suppliers who employ "deferred discount":eek: I am a little surprised that you have not found there is a competive NPower tariff (thanks or no thanks to "deferred discount" massaging the comparison). Are you using a Consumer Focus accredited comparison site with your actual usage?
  • metrobus
    metrobus Posts: 1,784 Forumite
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    edited 20 November 2011 at 12:35PM
    I also have a sign online 20 duel fuel contract ending on the 31st December.

    Am I correct in thinkng if I apply to switch in the week running up to the 31st
    it will be ok due to the fact the actual switch will be after that date ?

    It also states i will switch to the standard variable online tariff,go save. after Dec 31st,but when i go into uswitch i can not find that tariff.
  • PsiDOC
    PsiDOC Posts: 354 Forumite
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    jalexa wrote: »
    Though I don't normally advocate suppliers who employ "deferred discount":eek: I am a little surprised that you have not found there is a competive NPower tariff (thanks or no thanks to "deferred discount" massaging the comparison). Are you using a Consumer Focus accredited comparison site with your actual usage?

    Yes I now know about this "deferred discount" thing now. I think a call to Npower in the morning is in order to get the info from the horses mouth so to speak.

    RE: Accredited websites. I am using the 4 comparison sites in the Gas n Leccy MSE article, so I think they are. :)

    Psi
    Near a tree by a river, there's a hole in the ground.
    Where an old man of Aran goes around and around....

  • I'm glad I'm not the only one wondering how I'm going to switch from nPower!

    I got my letter about the end of Sign Online 20 today. Just to clarify my understanding (and maybe help any others who receive their letters this week), from what I can work out:

    - I will be switch to "Go Save" (expensive) tariff on 1st January (this was showing on uswitch.com when I looked this evening so maybe they've added it since you looked).

    - If I change supplier and haven't yet paid 12 continuous monthly direct debits, I won't get my £100 discount (which I assume comes off my 13th monthly payment - for me this will be next March :(

    - If I change my supplier before 31st December 2011, I will have to pay an early exit change or £20 per fuel (£40 for both Gas and Electricity). This is in the "npower Additional Terms for Sign Online 20 Offers" provided when I signed up.

    - If I want to change supplier, I have to let them know before or on 1st January 2012 (do they usually have their phone lines open on 1st Jan?).

    - If I let them know I'm changing supplier, they have to receive communication within 15 working days from my new supplier, or they will start charging me at the higher prices?

    - If I let them know before or on 1st Jan AND they hear from my new supplier within 3 weeks, I won't be affected by the higher prices.

    - NPower will let me know if I owe them any money and I will need to pay this within 30 days or they will prevent me from transferring.

    I think this is correct - can anyone confirm?

    So, if I want to switch and not incur any charges, I think I probably need to call them before 1st January but not early enough for the switch to take place before 31st December! I then need to ensure that I sign up with a new supplier and that they act fast enough for npower to hear from them within 15 working days. I then need to pay off any money I owe them as soon as possible once they're let me know how much this is.

    I believe this means I avoid the new higher prices from npower and also avoids the £40 charge for leaving early. Unfortunately, in my case, it also means losing the £100 discount for paying by direct debit - but I'd pretty much forgotten about that by now anyway!

    Hopefully my understanding is correct. They certainly don't make things simple! :(
  • jalexa
    jalexa Posts: 3,448 Forumite
    edited 21 November 2011 at 11:44PM
    Gosh, there is a lot there. I only have time to deal with a couple of the most serious misconceptions.
    - If I change supplier and haven't yet paid 12 continuous monthly direct debits, I won't get my £100 discount (which I assume comes off my 13th monthly payment - for me this will be next March :(
    Unfortunately not that simple. The discount has already reduced your monthly payments. If you do not qualify for the discount it will be added into your closing balance.:eek:
    - If I let them know before or on 1st Jan AND they hear from my new supplier within 3 weeks, I won't be affected by the higher prices.
    Not quite. You are confusing what can happen if you receive notice of an increase. This is tariff maturity, totally different. You change tariffs on the date specified in your contract.
    - NPower will let me know if I owe them any money and I will need to pay this within 30 days or they will prevent me from transferring.
    No. A debit balance in a regular direct debit payment scheme is not "debt" if you have maintained the agreed payments. After a switch completes you will receive a final account to settle.
  • flashg67
    flashg67 Posts: 4,128 Forumite
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    For me , it lookslike npower will still be cheapest (just) on their Sign Online 24 tariff so hopefully I can switch tariffs early in the new year and will only be on their expensive tariff for a short time and avoid the SOL20 exit fees? Can't see any other way round it?

    Reminder set for 1st Jan, hangover permitting!
  • horngkai
    horngkai Posts: 572 Forumite
    npower remains the cheapest for me as well on the new sign online tariff (no guarantee price wouldn't increase again though). Plus, being on Homecare 50, I need to stay as a npower customer to have 50% cashback if no call out is made.

    I spoke to npower, they say to switch tariff, I could probably do it 1-2 weeks before the 31st Dec seeing that its christmas period, it will take a little bit longer to complete the switch. 1st of Jan will be safer to avoid any mishap though.
  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    flashg67 wrote: »
    For me , it lookslike npower will still be cheapest (just) on their Sign Online 24 tariff so hopefully I can switch tariffs early in the new year and will only be on their expensive tariff for a short time and avoid the SOL20 exit fees? Can't see any other way round it?

    Reminder set for 1st Jan, hangover permitting!

    Exit fees should only apply if changing supplier, not if changing tariff.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • horngkai
    horngkai Posts: 572 Forumite
    macman wrote: »
    Exit fees should only apply if changing supplier, not if changing tariff.

    It exists for both I believe. Your contract is tied to the tariff, not the supplier.
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