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PCN - shall i make a formal representation
scubascuba3
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I received a PCN for parking over the parking bay line, the road markings in the road are very poor and from the driver side you couldn't see them. They have provided photo evidence of me being over the line but its the other side I never even saw.
The council has confirmed that the markings "are in poor condition and in need of refurbishment and have been added to their current works programme" however they also said that they were "substantially complient and enforceable"
I have provided photo evidence how poor they are and quoted regs I found online as to the standard they should be, clearly they are not. They rejected the appeal probably because of the photo from the only angle you could see the line.
Shall I now go to make a formal representation or just pay up? it's £30 going up to £60, but it's the principle. Any experience of these formal representations, is it worth it or will they just look at the one photo the traffic warden took and ignore the other evidence?
The council has confirmed that the markings "are in poor condition and in need of refurbishment and have been added to their current works programme" however they also said that they were "substantially complient and enforceable"
I have provided photo evidence how poor they are and quoted regs I found online as to the standard they should be, clearly they are not. They rejected the appeal probably because of the photo from the only angle you could see the line.
Shall I now go to make a formal representation or just pay up? it's £30 going up to £60, but it's the principle. Any experience of these formal representations, is it worth it or will they just look at the one photo the traffic warden took and ignore the other evidence?
I strongly recommend you ignore everything I say. Investments can go up as well as down, and is purely gambling
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The council have a rubber stamp mentality to appeals, you will need to go to the adjudicatorHi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0
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Yes, go to adjudication as most people win who proceed that far. And get advice from pepipoo first, start a new thread here:
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30
You will need to show them pics of your PCN, rejection letter and Notice to Owner if you have it yet. read the FAQs when you register as you will need to read 'how to post pictures'.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0 -
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but expect something of a fight with regard to "substantial compliance". Pepipoo is the place to go.My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016).
For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com0 -
does it need to be pics of PCN,etc? can i just get them scanned? which will end up as pdfs i thinkI strongly recommend you ignore everything I say. Investments can go up as well as down, and is purely gambling0
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Scans of both sides of the PCN (including all the wording) and any letter/NTO you have received, suitably "washed" of your details and any means of identifying your case - registration number, etc. Use jpegs rather than pdf's as these will display in the thread whereas pdf's will need to be downloaded. Use Photobucket to host the scanned-in images.scubascuba3 wrote: »does it need to be pics of PCN,etc? can i just get them scanned? which will end up as pdfs i thinkMy very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016).
For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com0 -
Thanks for the advice, I'll start a thread on Pepipoo and see what advice I get. It would be good to find out the reg around condition of parking bay markings. I can't believe it's legal to issue a ticket if the markings are in poor condition and easily missed.I strongly recommend you ignore everything I say. Investments can go up as well as down, and is purely gambling0
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