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H-L introduces a Tracker Platform Charge

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  • gadgetmind
    gadgetmind Posts: 11,130 Forumite
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    In an ISA, BestInvest's annual fee of £50 lets you hold as many vanguard funds as you want. (In a SIPP it would be £100.)

    Yup, I'm planning to use Bestinvest to hold nine different Vanguard funds, and a few other bits too. I started with the Lifestrategy 80% and then added a bias towards Pacific, EM, Small Cap, and FTSE 250. I've also reduced bonds and moved this towards infrastructure.

    Or at least I will if BI activate the SIPP! Imagine how I've felt as I've watched the markets this week. I hope Friday is a flop and the markets crash again. :D
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • gadgetmind
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    Presumably books/articles on asset allocation would give the historical performance of various combinations of asset classes.

    Smarter Investing doesn't perhaps have as much detail as you'd like, but it's a good starting point.

    The Vanguard document on why they did what they did with LifeStrategy is also worth a read.
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • gadgetmind wrote: »
    Just holding the Linked Gilts alongside won't be as diversified.

    BTW, the Vanguard funds with >=80% equities actually hold a slightly different global mix of equities.

    Yes, I see your point. Had a feeling it wouldn't be quite a simple as that - I'll re-read the lifestlying post.
  • westy22
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    Has anyone else noticed that the much-trumpeted HL SWIP FTSE All Share Tracker has already increased its TER from 0.11% (announced on Monday) to 0.14% (today) before it has even launched?
    Old dog but always delighted to learn new tricks!
  • jimjames
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    westy22 wrote: »
    Has anyone else noticed that the much-trumpeted HL SWIP FTSE All Share Tracker has already increased its TER from 0.11% (announced on Monday) to 0.14% (today) before it has even launched?

    Its still showing at 0.11% on the HL site?

    http://www.hl.co.uk/news/feature-articles/new-ultra-low-cost-tracker-funds
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
  • westy22
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    Well, you're absolutely correct but I swear it was showing 0.14% at 10pm last night - I checked twice, on 2 different lists! And, no, I hadn't had a few nightcaps! I'm baffled. Could it be that HL decided that the extra bit of TER wasn't worth the bad PR following on from last month's bad feeling? I shall ask HL what was going on.
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  • koru
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    westy22 wrote: »
    Well, you're absolutely correct but I swear it was showing 0.14% at 10pm last night - I checked twice, on 2 different lists! And, no, I hadn't had a few nightcaps! I'm baffled. Could it be that HL decided that the extra bit of TER wasn't worth the bad PR following on from last month's bad feeling? I shall ask HL what was going on.
    I can confirm that it did say 0.14% last night. At least it did on the fund page: http://www.hl.co.uk/funds/fund-discounts,-prices--and--factsheets/search-results/s/swip-ftse-all-share-index-swip-foundation-growth-accumulation
    koru
  • koru wrote: »

    or that the planned increase (once everybody switched before the cut-off date) was displayed in error ? <cynicism>
  • westy22
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    Thanks, Koru - I thought I was going mad!!
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  • evilplan
    evilplan Posts: 56 Forumite
    Just had a 2 or 3 page letter from HL in response to my email to them (in which I said they'd breached my trust cos of how they'd done things and the level at which they set their fees etc.); they've said they will waive fees til February, as they've said to some others.

    Not had a chance to read the letter fully yet. They said they took my email as a "formal complaint" cos of FSA rules or something. If there's anything interesting to report I'll let you know.
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