Power of attorney.

The_Economist

Does anybody know how to i can get power of attorney in an emergency. Is there a fast track way. My relation is not very well and i am dealing with all there bills and there day to day affairs and need to get this sorted as soon as i can even if we have to pay. Any help or ideas would be great.

Hotspur

The_Economist wrote: »

Does anybody know how to i can get power of attorney in an emergency. Is there a fast track way. My relation is not very well and i am dealing with all there bills and there day to day affairs and need to get this sorted as soon as i can even if we have to pay. Any help or ideas would be great.

I'd be interested to see if this is possible as well. The current waiting time to register a lasting power of attorney is 14 weeks. See here on direct gov

barbeka

Has your relation already completed a power of attorney form? if so lasting or enduring? if not depending on their condition it may be too late to go down this route as they have to be able to understand and sign the form.

I only have experience of registering a lasting power of attorney form (which is the old type of form and can no longer be completed by the attornee, but completed forms can still be registered), as far as I know the process can't be speeded up. Near relations have to be informed that you are registering the power of attorney form and they are given some time to register any objections (sorry I can't remember how long that is - it's several years since I did this).

I'm sorry that this isn't good news - you could try phoning the Office of the Public Guardian for advice (they process the paperwork) but I found a got a different answer every time I asked a question.

In the short term we had to resort to the relation signing some blank cheques - not ideal but we had nursing home fees to meet, fortunately most of their bills were done by direct debit.

rachbc

you can't POA has to be sorted in advance whilst the donor is in a position to understadn what they are doing. OH and I are doing it as part of our wills this month.

madelaine

I think we may be sadly in the same position, 3 weeks ago my Aunt was admitted to Hospital, and diagnosed with Vascular Dementia, She is 85 and up until 3 weeks ago managed quite well with our help living at home on her own, you wouldn't believe the difference from one day to the next, on the Wednesday my Sister took my aunt out for lunch, and she was her usual self, on the Thursday she phoned my Sister accusing her of locking her in a cuboard, later that day myself Sister and Niece visited her, and it was obvious something was wrong, My Aunty hadn't got her teeth in, hadn't had anything to eat or drink, hadn't taken her medication, and was really confused, Doctor was called and my Aunt was admitted to Hospital, to see if she had any infection that had caused this reaction, We cannot believe how someone so independent strong, could go down hill so fast, it is so sad seeing her like this, We had a meeting at the Hospital last week, where one of the Mental Health Team told us he had been to see my Aunt, and she was good, We told him he must have seen a different person than we had, sadly she is now incontinent, hallucinating, and is nothing like my Aunt, today we have been told there is no chance of her returning home, and will need a EMI Home, I think we will now need LPA as My aunty owns her own home, We are going to insist on a CHC assesment before she is discharged from Hospital.

shell_girl

If the person in question has lost capacity, you need to look into becoming a deputy, POA can only be registered when the person still has the capacity to consent.

You can find information about deputyships by looking on directgov website or by googling office of the public guardian.

Obtaining a deputyship is not a quick process, sometimes the court of protection will look at specific issues that are deemed to be emergencies, but this is usually matters relating to health and wellbeing. A deputyship relating to finances is called a property and affairs deputyship, and I don't think they can be rushed.

The_Economist

madelaine wrote: »

I think we may be sadly in the same position, 3 weeks ago my Aunt was admitted to Hospital, and diagnosed with Vascular Dementia, She is 85 and up until 3 weeks ago managed quite well with our help living at home on her own, you wouldn't believe the difference from one day to the next, on the Wednesday my Sister took my aunt out for lunch, and she was her usual self, on the Thursday she phoned my Sister accusing her of locking her in a cuboard, later that day myself Sister and Niece visited her, and it was obvious something was wrong, My Aunty hadn't got her teeth in, hadn't had anything to eat or drink, hadn't taken her medication, and was really confused, Doctor was called and my Aunt was admitted to Hospital, to see if she had any infection that had caused this reaction, We cannot believe how someone so independent strong, could go down hill so fast, it is so sad seeing her like this, We had a meeting at the Hospital last week, where one of the Mental Health Team told us he had been to see my Aunt, and she was good, We told him he must have seen a different person than we had, sadly she is now incontinent, hallucinating, and is nothing like my Aunt, today we have been told there is no chance of her returning home, and will need a EMI Home, I think we will now need LPA as My aunty owns her own home, We are going to insist on a CHC assesment before she is discharged from Hospital.

What does one say. My sympathys go out to you and your family. We are trying to deal with the sudden decline in our relations health to. Very frustrating, scary, and confusing even for us. I have to ask if thats ok, whats a EMI home and whats a CHC assesment.
Many thanks.

madelaine

Hi

Sorry to hear that you are going through similar problem.

EMI - Elderly Mentaly Infirm.
CHC - continuing health care, Google NHS CHC

Heinz

barbeka wrote: »

Has your relation already completed a power of attorney form? if so lasting or enduring? if not depending on their condition it may be too late to go down this route as they have to be able to understand and sign the form.

I only have experience of registering a lasting power of attorney form (which is the old type of form and can no longer be completed by the attornee, but completed forms can still be registered)

You can probably guess why I have arrived here and, although I have no specific input to this thread, I thought I ought to mention you have that back to front.

An Enduring Power of Attorney is the old version (it was replaced by the Lasting Power of Attorney on 1st October 2007).

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governmentcitizensandrights/Mentalcapacityandthelaw/Mentalcapacityandplanningahead/DG_186369

chesky369

Rainu Legal - please stop advertising your services on the boards - you've now done this on four other threads.

chesky369

Everybody on here tries to help other people - that's not the problem. You're giving your telephone number and asking people to contact you. You are a solicitor. You may or may not be charging for your services, but you ARE touting for business. Give your advice anonymously as the rest of us do