How to stop the lunchbox police!

**curlywurly**

DUTR wrote: »

Not exactly , I suppose it is up to the parents if they have the children in the same enclosed space where the smoker is too then?

I don't think that's strictly relevant. Being in a room with a smoker is injurious to health. Having a slice of Malt Loaf, or in fact a cake, or a biscuit, with your lunch may not be.

meritaten

Oh dear - I seem to have sparked a debate now on the merits of Malt loaf! lol
no matter - all views are welcome and even some posts which dont seem relevant are actually HELPING me sort out my thoughts!
Keep em coming!

tinksy

gar Jamie Oliver!

My mum used to be a school cook and in her kitchen they made everything fresh. So as they served cold and hot lunches the bread and rolls were handmade, the pizza bases were handmade if they had them. She did not serve turkey twizzlers because it was her decision that she wouldn't serve it to her kids why would she serve it to others. Yes they had puddings and cake available but as adults we know that banning something won't work and they did only allow children one serving.

Jamie Oliver came in and she had to stop cooking everything from scratch follow a menu that the kids hated and buy everything in processed. She had to stop selling jacket potatoes and salads etc as they didn't fit into the plan. So she left.

Sad thing was she worked in a very deprived area and her food was often the only thing kids got. Now they just get all bought in stuff nothing homemade.

*max*

I'm not entering the "healthy/unhealthy debate" as it's been done to death (and this thread is turning into yet another debate), I'm just curious as to how exactly you propose to intervene on a nation-wide basis if it's only some schools that go over the top with the healthy eating? It's up to the parents to speak to their own school if they have a problem with it.

There's been a campaign and changes have been made in the right direction. Now you want to go back to individual schools and tell them "actually, you're doing it too right, please take it down a notch"? I just don't see how this is in any way practical.

DUTR

**curlywurly** wrote: »

I don't think that's strictly relevant. Being in a room with a smoker is injurious to health. Having a slice of Malt Loaf, or in fact a cake, or a biscuit, with your lunch may not be.

I like the way you use is and may selectively, smoking kills some and not others, some never touch a ciggie in their life and die of cancer.
I see adults smoking in cars with children aboard, that is what I refer to.
They say diabetes is a silent killer, so children staring on a bad diet, may grow to be type 2 diabetic or obese or both well before time :eek:

vax2002

Just stick a picture of jamie oliver and his 3 chins on the lunch box...

xxlouisexx56

This really bothers me!!

My DD is 5 and is autistic. She is adamant she doesn't like water, would not even drink it in 40 degree heat whilst on holiday.

So i put sugar free squash in her water bottle.

I got a massive telling off from her teacher, even though i pointed out in her lunch she has a ham salad sarnie, grapes, yoghurt and maybe a cereal bar. And yet one of her friends has chocolate spread sarnies, chocolate bar and then crisps! How is that fair?

I was tired of arguing. I moved her onto school dinners so she can now have milk at lunch time instead.

mrs_marty

From reading other threads of a similar nature I am stunned how over the top some school's are, our school we only have a no nut's rule. However we do have a School Nutrition Action Group which is made up of a few teachers and class representatives. The point of this group is to educate the school on healthy eating and activities and a "munchy monday" competition where the school house with the most munchy points for eating fruit/veg on a monday wins extra playtime. It appears to be successful.

I do get why some school's are on clamp down as some children's boxes do seem to be full of rubbish and no balance with healthy goodies.

claire16c

tinksy wrote: »

gar Jamie Oliver!

My mum used to be a school cook and in her kitchen they made everything fresh. So as they served cold and hot lunches the bread and rolls were handmade, the pizza bases were handmade if they had them. She did not serve turkey twizzlers because it was her decision that she wouldn't serve it to her kids why would she serve it to others. Yes they had puddings and cake available but as adults we know that banning something won't work and they did only allow children one serving.

Jamie Oliver came in and she had to stop cooking everything from scratch follow a menu that the kids hated and buy everything in processed. She had to stop selling jacket potatoes and salads etc as they didn't fit into the plan. So she left.

Sad thing was she worked in a very deprived area and her food was often the only thing kids got. Now they just get all bought in stuff nothing homemade.

Many schools would have gone from processed to foods being made up though since the healthy eating thing came in. And I know the schools round here do jacket potatoes and salads, so Im not sure why the one you know doesnt? As the healthy eating thing menu definitely includes them. It sounds like its gone back to front at that school!

xxlouisexx56 wrote: »

This really bothers me!!

My DD is 5 and is autistic. She is adamant she doesn't like water, would not even drink it in 40 degree heat whilst on holiday.

So i put sugar free squash in her water bottle.

I got a massive telling off from her teacher, even though i pointed out in her lunch she has a ham salad sarnie, grapes, yoghurt and maybe a cereal bar. And yet one of her friends has chocolate spread sarnies, chocolate bar and then crisps! How is that fair?

I was tired of arguing. I moved her onto school dinners so she can now have milk at lunch time instead.

Cant you buy her a water bottle thats not see-through? I would never have drunk plain water as a child either. Barely drink it now either, i always tend to have squash.

Sambucus_Nigra

mrs_marty wrote: »

However we do have a School Nutrition Action Group

Which is as a direct result of being part of the Food for Life Partnership, mentioned in my earlier post