Voluntary Redudancy Offer now reduced - My rights?

Jarndyce

vax2002 wrote: »

You would have been down the road on day 3 of your two years paid leave in any private employment.
To be honest I am amazed you have the brass neck to complain when everyone else is licking it from the pavement...

Waiter my champaign is too cold, as you sail by the swimmers....

Jealousy is such a negative emotion.

Just because others are not entitled to the same benefits does not mean that the OP should not ascertain her correct entitlement. Would you ratchet down every worker's terms and conditions to the level of the worst? If so you would make a very good Cabinet Minister.

geoffken

Not ratchet down but have the public sector apply the same terms as any REASONABLE private employer!!!
I am CERTAIN that NO private sector employer would offer 30 months sick pay and £45,000 pay off as well.

Jarndyce

geoffken wrote: »

Not ratchet down but have the public sector apply the same terms as any REASONABLE private employer!!!
I am CERTAIN that NO private sector employer would offer 30 months sick pay and £45,000 pay off as well.

The OP had not been on sick leave she'd been on carer's leave - unpaid. If you read the thread carefully you might not get so angry.

Acc72

Jarndyce wrote: »

The OP had not been on sick leave she'd been on carer's leave - unpaid.

The maternity leave was described as being "unpaid" although the OP received SMP.

I am not sure how carer's leave works, but the OP does not say whether they are in receipt of full / reduced pay from their employer or some other allowance.

jackyann

Most public sector employers and some private ones offer a very small amount of paid carer's leave, usually 3-5 days per year (the rationale is that you're probably saving the local authority or NHS money!).
I can't believe that anyone would even THINK that a public sector employee would get 2 years' paid leave - just shows how weirdly people view us!
Having spent all of my working life in the NHS I am aware that unpaid carer's leave is not uncommon (in both private & public sector employers) - it is often a good way for employers to stop paying a salary whilst keeping some options open, so it suits them as well.
For all of those who appear to despise us nurses, paramedics, physios etc. I feel that I should clarify that during such a period of unpaid leave, pension contributions are suspended, although terms & conditions are kept.
As for appealing OP, I suggest you talk to your union (another institution despised by many on this board)
And I wish you luck - caring for disabled family members is hard work and saves the country a great deal of money.

terra_ferma

jackyann wrote: »

And I wish you luck - caring for disabled family members is hard work and saves the country a great deal of money.

so true, caring is unpaid, unrecognised work, mostly by women.

Sanddunelass

Firstly many thanks to anyone who has provided constructive comments on this post.

I am astounded however that so many of you did not read the facts in my post correctly, and made so many incorrect assumptions, and judged my circumstances without having all the facts. How can you judge without facts? I did not ask to be judged i merely asked a question.

My offer is based on my grade( how would you know if i'm an admin officer or a chief exec), my professional qualifications (Accountant), length of service (not far off 30 years). Plus for the record my sick record is exemplorary thank you. Not that i should have to justify my position thank you.

I never said i received 'paid' carers leave for 36 months, it was all unpaid, obviously how can anyone think otherwise baffles me.

My point was that i signed up to a formal offer back in July, and now they've changed it. Would you not want to know what your rights were?

No i haven't already left, I am still employed, and as i stated my leaving date is 31/12/2011.

In my career i have worked with many professionally qualified, talented, dedicated, civil servants who go above and beyond what is required of them, consistently produce first class work under often very challenging circumstances. People who think we are all pen pushers just are jealous, bitter and lacking in intelligence to know any better and have no idea what we do in the civil service.

Just for those people, pass me more champagne please.

getmore4less

There is another post in the thread replies are getting mixed up.

I think it is simple, offer has changed they have given you the choice to no longer be tied to it.

If you no longer want to take the offer then the issue becomes can you remain on carers leave.

redlooney

geoffken wrote: »

Not ratchet down but have the public sector apply the same terms as any REASONABLE private employer!!!
I am CERTAIN that NO private sector employer would offer 30 months sick pay and £45,000 pay off as well.

I've never seen jealousy as an attractive trait

jackyann

Sanddunelass wrote: »

Firstly many thanks to anyone who has provided constructive comments on this post.

I am astounded however that so many of you did not read the facts in my post correctly, and made so many incorrect assumptions, and judged my circumstances without having all the facts. How can you judge without facts? I did not ask to be judged i merely asked a question.

My offer is based on my grade( how would you know if i'm an admin officer or a chief exec), my professional qualifications (Accountant), length of service (not far off 30 years). Plus for the record my sick record is exemplorary thank you. Not that i should have to justify my position thank you.

I never said i received 'paid' carers leave for 36 months, it was all unpaid, obviously how can anyone think otherwise baffles me.

My point was that i signed up to a formal offer back in July, and now they've changed it. Would you not want to know what your rights were?

No i haven't already left, I am still employed, and as i stated my leaving date is 31/12/2011.

In my career i have worked with many professionally qualified, talented, dedicated, civil servants who go above and beyond what is required of them, consistently produce first class work under often very challenging circumstances. People who think we are all pen pushers just are jealous, bitter and lacking in intelligence to know any better and have no idea what we do in the civil service.

Just for those people, pass me more champagne please.

Well, I do believe that they are related to the people who, 40+ years ago, smirked at me, saying that I would never earn any money in nursing. They were never going to shackle themselves to serving the public, but make lots of money in the private sector.
Now, far from thinking my salary poor, they envy me having a pension that is 50% of it.
The funny thing is, I only ever wanted to earn a living doing something I loved.