Public Sector Pension Strikes – A JOKE !

sheffield_lad

Debbie_A wrote: »

Please can we stop this bickering. Yes, I am a public sector employee and I know that the Teachers' Pension Fund has no fund. But this is not my fault. I have been contributing 20% of my remuneration package for years. It is not my fault that the government has chosen to use this money to pay the bills, rather than invest it in a proper fund.

The folks who own the country must be laughing at us. Whilst we sling mud at each other, they are quietly taking more and more out of the system for themselves:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs/8853761/FTSE-100-directors-pay-jumps-49pc.html
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hwBhZn04opghJna4rzRqndTieqPQ?docId=N0755351321759162489A

Debbie

20% Debbie, where do you get that figure from? I thought your input was 6% and under hutton this goes to 9%?

So where is the other 14% you contribute?

jem16

howee wrote: »

20% Debbie, where do you get that figure from? I thought your input was 6% and under hutton this goes to 9%?

So where is the other 14% you contribute?

Debbie said remuneration package.

Debbie_A wrote: »

I have been contributing 20% of my remuneration package for years.

The 14% employer contribution is part of our overall remuneration, in just the same was as anyone who receives benefits in kind.

tartanterra

If the proposed changes to public sector pensions are so outrageous and unfair, I can only assume that when they are implemented our public servants will be leaving the scheme in droves.

sheffield_lad

jem16 wrote: »

Debbie said remuneration package.


The 14% employer contribution is part of our overall remuneration, in just the same was as anyone who receives benefits in kind.

Yes I saw that Debbie left out, 'and you the taxpayer pick up the rest'

Either naively or because she has listened to too much rubbish spouted by NUT.

The_Angry_Jock

Debbie_A wrote: »

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hwBhZn04opghJna4rzRqndTieqPQ?docId=N0755351321759162489A

Just think of all that lovely money the taxman is going to recieve :money:

CLAPTON

howee wrote: »

Yes I saw that Debbie left out, 'and you the taxpayer pick up the rest'

Either naively or because she has listened to too much rubbish spouted by NUT.

the naive would note that all of the public sector's remuneration package is funded by the taxpayers not just the 14%; so what point are you making
that they are paid too much?
or that the 14% to the pension is some sort of different money to normal salary?

sheffield_lad

CLAPTON wrote: »

the naive would note that all of the public sector's remuneration package is funded by the taxpayers not just the 14%; so what point are you making
that they are paid too much?
or that the 14% to the pension is some sort of different money to normal salary?

ummm, no I pointed out earlier she is paying 6% NOT 20% in. Leaving 14% paid by the taxpayer.

Nothing to do with what she is paid and everything to do with 14% being paid by the taxpayer.

My point being a very easy one to make, Public sector pensions are unaffordable.

PS workers lets say that the gov u turned (as you all scared us to death with your threats), and your pensions continued as they were do you really think they can carry on as they are?

Lets see how many heads come out of the sand?

sheffield_lad

The_Angry_Jock wrote: »

Just think of all that lovely money the taxman is going to recieve :money:

Yep its the bankers lets blame them oh and the millionaires, and footballers.

Labour did well clamping down on these guys in their 14yrs didn't they lol

cyclonebri1

I blinked and there's 3 more pages, out of here;)

jem16

howee wrote: »

ummm, no I pointed out earlier she is paying 6% NOT 20% in. Leaving 14% paid by the taxpayer.

Nothing to do with what she is paid and everything to do with 14% being paid by the taxpayer.

Once again you miss the point that a Teacher's wage is also paid by the taxpayer so with your thinking the taxpayer is paying 20%.

Would you rather that a teacher is paid an extra 14% and then that teacher pays the whole 20% contribution? Would that somehow be different?