On joint income support - Do I go to work programme? Slimey advisor!

bobajob_1966

craigjob wrote: »

May I just add, when I came off JSA - Because I found a small part time job which unforutnatly ended because my friend retired. During the time I was off it and handed in my WP40? She was still insiting I had to go, as it would effect FUTURE benifits, EVEN IF, I "WASN'T" claiming for anything at the "PRESENT" time.

This is why i say slimey as she does anything/says anything to twist the rules.

Maybe she thinks the same of you for avoiding the WP?

sueturnersmith

Well I'm staggered! I've had four children, and each time I gave birth my husband took one week's leave. Before and after that I managed perfectly well on my own, with no help from anyone!

Now Craig is saying that the government is giving him Income Support and JSA for a total of 25 weeks to help his pregnant partner? And I'm expected to pay tax to support this?

I do hope Craig has got this wrong, because otherwise I think I will join the protesters in a tent outside St Pauls!

craigjob

bobajob_1966 wrote: »

Maybe she thinks the same of you for avoiding the WP?

Mate, I haven't been avoiding it. I've been going up until 4 weeks ago. And all contact stopped. But when I left JSA. And didn't claim for anything. She still insited I had to go. This is untrue.

But now, I'm on Income support. I have no reason to go, nor no need. Her records are saying I'm on JSA. (If she has them, because she believes I am) I am trying to email her, which I have done, to no reply was recivied, and she doesn't answer her phone. So once the apointment comes and goes, i will be effected for "Not letting her know" LOL.

Was I avoiding the work programme, when I stopped my JSA, and was working part time? Was that then, as you say, Avoiding. Even tho, I'm not claiming. Are you actually saying, that if I was to get a full time job. And she is asking me to go to work programme. I'm still avoiding because I'm not going, but she is saying "But it will effect your future benfits, if you don't" (BARE IN MIND I WAS IN PART TIME WORK AND NO LONGER ON JSA!"

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From now on: I want the answer for my orginal post.

Which was, "If you're on a joint income support, and you've been told by the JCP HQ- You do not need to go, but the Work programme insist you do. Who do you listen to, and does the Work Programme have the right, to stop benifit, even tho, it is not mandertory for you to go.


Anybody on a joint claim, with a partner, not going to the work programme, PLEASE REPLY!

Because people here seem to want to get deep into what she might think, or what I might be avoiding. Or what I can and Can't claim, even tho JSA HQ clearly say I can.

craigjob

"Now Craig is saying that the government is giving him Income Support and JSA "

WHAT?

They're not paying me JSA. I'm on a joint claim on Income Support.

Which basically means I am not required to show proof of seeking work or not go to courses. Basically, go down to the JC and Sign on.

I recivie the same amount as JSA. But I'm not on both JSA AND IS.
My partner recivies the same.

On a side note: What you may manage with and what others can not manage with is on a totally new subject. Like I said, The JC told me. Now Idk why you people are finding this hard to understand.

"You are allowed to stay on Income support for up to 10 weeks (or 15) before the birth, and 10 weeks After the birth, before you are obligated to return to JSA, the courses, the signing on.

This isn't hard to understand.

craigjob

sueturnersmith wrote: »

Well I'm staggered! I've had four children, and each time I gave birth my husband took one week's leave. Before and after that I managed perfectly well on my own, with no help from anyone!

Now Craig is saying that the government is giving him Income Support and JSA for a total of 25 weeks to help his pregnant partner? And I'm expected to pay tax to support this?

I do hope Craig has got this wrong, because otherwise I think I will join the protesters in a tent outside St Pauls!

Forgot to quote, read the above.

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Now can we stick to the orginal topic please? Thanks:)

craigjob

I don't know why this turnt into a debate over goverment, and what the JC should be allowing me and my partner to go on and not.

Nor do I know why I'm receiving insults over this either.

I just need to know what happends with the Work Programme as they do have the right to stop benifits, and as the JC and WP don't communicate very well. And always inisit for me to pass on the message to the other, and not just phone each other. I keep getting told two things.

So once again I ask, anybody on a joint IS claim, with a partner. Are you going to work programme or no.

Miroslav

Do you have any paperwork stating you have to go or that you do not have to go?

If not, ask both JobCentre Plus and your Work Programme Advisor for written confirmation of what they say. If they can back their claims up, they'll gladly put it in writing.

Receiving texts from your Work Programme Advisor is not an official avenue and holds no weight and i've never heard of anyone texting from these places before, so it sounds incredibly strange to me, especially as she doesn't then respond to your responses in whatever form they may be.

HappyMJ

Just go to the appointment and keep them happy. You can risk not going and have your benefits stopped if you wish that's up to you but be prepared for a long wait in appeals and decisions to be made regarding your claim whilst you get nothing.

The "you people" that you refer to are confused as IS is normally only paid for a few weeks similar to paternity pay it's not normally 25 weeks. But you feel that you are correct so I won't contradict what your advisor has said to you.

craigjob

HappyMJ wrote: »

Just go to the appointment and keep them happy. You can risk not going and have your benefits stopped if you wish that's up to you but be prepared for a long wait in appeals and decisions to be made regarding your claim whilst you get nothing.

The "you people" that you refer to are confused as IS is normally only paid for a few weeks similar to paternity pay it's not normally 25 weeks. But you feel that you are correct so I won't contradict what your advisor has said to you.

Hi thanks for the reply, I wasn't going to name epople so you people seemed right. lol. As it was the same people repeating what others said before, and I had answered.

Weather it's 25 weeks 50 weeks or 2 days it doesn't matter at this time.

The problem I have with going is it's up to 2 hours away, because I've moved. I've even asked her to transfer me to a closer office but there is no reply. So I am at the moment, stuck with having to travel up to 2 hours away (costs alot for the travel) for a 1 hour appointment. And just basically wondered how I can explain to her what I've had said to me. Because like i said, when I left JSA for a part time job, she still insisted I had to go and meet her, as it would effect future benefits. Which would mean all people in part time jobs are going to this WP? Understand my own confusion because now at the moment I came here to solve 2 people saying 2 different things. It ends up with loads of people, all saying different/yet the same/but off the topic things...lol. Thanks for the reply. As the one above you I shall follow that and get this sorted.

Thanks.

Miroslav

craigjob wrote: »

So I am at the moment, stuck with having to travel up to 2 hours away (costs alot for the travel) for a 1 hour appointment.

If it turns out you must go, you may be able to claim travel expenses, so look into that too.