Forced lunchbreak?

mildred1978

shell820810 wrote: »

:mad:
So it is unreasonable to be expect to be paid for the hours I work. .

But that's what is happening now and you've done nothing about it!

Jarndyce

VfM4meplse wrote: »

I think this right has been extended to everyone, which makes life a lot fairer.

No it hasn't.

But having checked the Regs you can apply if you expect to have a child, so there's no need to wait until after the birth.

shell820810

mildred1978 wrote: »

But that's what is happening now and you've done nothing about it!

As I mentioned, in professional jobs it is taken for granted that you do that bit extra. However, my circumstances will change after i have the baby and i wont have the same scope to work over my hours. It is very difficult to take an hour for lunch and leave at 5pm when you are the only one doing it and everyone else has to pick up the slack. The bosses in new york arent concerned with things like that, they just look at revenue.

Hammyman

shell820810 wrote: »

Thanks, I will have to submit a formal request, so its interesting that they have to give reasons against it.

You are assuming they have to tell you why in detail. All they need to put is:

Request for flexible hours refused on the grounds of business needs.

That is all. One sentence with no further explanation.

Uncertain

Hammyman wrote: »

You are assuming they have to tell you why in detail. All they need to put is:

Request for flexible hours refused on the grounds of business needs.

That is all. One sentence with no further explanation.

Not if it got as far as a discrimination claim! They would have to come up with a great deal of detail to prove they had valid grounds then.

Hopefully it won't come to that.

Jarndyce

Hammyman wrote: »

You are assuming they have to tell you why in detail. All they need to put is:

Request for flexible hours refused on the grounds of business needs.

That is all. One sentence with no further explanation.

Then you appeal, and they have to be able to justify it - especially if it goes to a tribunal, who would take a dim view of an employer who gave a one line explanation.

mildred1978

shell820810 wrote: »

And just to be clear, I havent asked them anything yet about flexible working when I return, I am basing my information on what a colleague has been allowed to do (works 28 hours in 3 days, but has to take 1 hour in the middle of the day unpaid, and then any extra for work that cannot be completed in the 28 hours), all because she cannot afford to pay any more than 3 days childcare, but cannot afford to work any less than 4 days.

I understand that.

So you're saying it's fine for those without kids to be exploited, but not those with?

getmore4less

Why worry about others picking up the slack for the odd hour when you are expecting people to pick up the slack for 2 days you plan not to do any work.

It is you choice to currently use flexable working within your lunch carry on doing the same or just work your paid hours.

Changing from 5 days to 3 days should not change anything.

sunflower_2

VfM4meplse wrote: »

It would be a good idea to look at this from the needs of the service rather than your own convenience. Consider yourself lucky to be in employment.

how annoying!!

this is what is making employers take liberties. e.g. "in this current climate you should be lucky to have a job never mind expect to get paid for 20 hours+ overtime".

i am thankful to be in employment, yes. but i have been in the same job for 14 year and can see how little they think of their employees in the recent year or so. shameful considering they are making more and more profit!!!

i do a job - i expect to be paid for the hours i work - i expect to be treat fairly and LEGALLY. therefore i expect them to carefully consider my request for flexible working.

i am totally with the OP on this.

an9i77

It's pretty easy to make a refusal for a flexible working request fit into one of the items on the list of reasons - think about it, how many employers couldn't cite at least one of these factors as a reason for the refusal? IMHO the right to request flexible working is one of the stupidest rights at work there are, because that's literally all the right is, the right to request it. So if the employer wants to get out of it, so long as they follow the correct procedure and make sure that they can explain the refusal in terms of one of the permitted 'reasons', then they are home and dry. OP you are really at the mercy of your employer on this one, good luck