universal credit - stay at home mummy

Sixer

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

A lot of people work a basic 50 hour week now; not just lawyers.

Only if they opt out of the legal maximum of 48 hours.

Very few "full-time" jobs are for basic contracted hours of 50 or more. In fact, I'd say a proportion so small it's discountable.

Fiver29

Sixer wrote: »

Keep up dear. We're talking about the current [benefit] system. And it doesn't "say that". That's why it's implicit.

Oh aren't you clever, trying to make people feel silly saying dear <rolleyes>.

Even in the current benefits system 30 hours isn't classed as full time, try going to and JCP and asking. I know, because I have.

Sixer

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

Not travel to a regular place of work, no. I don't include travelling to Chambers. But I do then go from Chambers (where I am now) to courts (which are all over the country).

Barristers aren't allowed to choose cases. there is something called the "cab rank" rule.

My sister-in-law is a barrister, so I do understand the way of working. I'm picking you up because of your original post that sneered about a 35-hour week being regarded as full-time. In the view of most jobs and most people, 35 hours is full-time albeit on the lower end. And for you to compare any of the conditions of your working life as a career barrister to an NMW till girl at Tesco, say, is pointless. It's chalk and cheese. Presumably, you are starting out so your money is fairly low. But it's a means to a profitable end. The same cannot be said for those you sneer at.

neverdespairgirl

Sixer wrote: »

My sister-in-law is a barrister, so I do understand the way of working. I'm picking you up because of your original post that sneered about a 35-hour week being regarded as full-time. In the view of most jobs and most people, 35 hours is full-time albeit on the lower end. And for you to compare any of the conditions of your working life as a career barrister to an NMW till girl at Tesco, say, is pointless. It's chalk and cheese. Presumably, you are starting out so your money is fairly low. But it's a means to a profitable end. The same cannot be said for those you sneer at.

I wasn't sneering. But I don't regard 35 hours a week as full-time.

I'm not just starting out now - I'm 33. Overall, my income is fine.

Fiver29

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I wasn't sneering. But I don't regard 35 hours a week as full-time.

I'm not just starting out now - I'm 33. Overall, my income is fine.

Pah! You're still a young slip of a girl :D

Sixer

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I wasn't sneering. But I don't regard 35 hours a week as full-time.

I'm not just starting out now - I'm 33. Overall, my income is fine.

That's a wee lass from where I'm sitting!

Look, you can have whatever personal view you like about full-time hours, but you're not helping the thread by applying the specific to the general. The vast majority of full-time jobs have contracted hours of between 35 and 40. In fact, for employees to work more than 48 hours (including any overtime), they have to make a signed legal opt-out of the Working Time Directive.

Sixer

Fiver29 wrote: »

Oh aren't you clever, trying to make people feel silly saying dear <rolleyes>.

Even in the current benefits system 30 hours isn't classed as full time, try going to and JCP and asking. I know, because I have.

Sorry, I take back the 'dear'!

Nevertheless, I was responding to a remark of yours which has no base in fact. The benefits system has no explicit definition of full-time, but as I said earlier in thread:

"For benefits purposes, it's 30 hours really, isn't it? As that's where all conditionality ends and where the maximum premiums recognising an amount of work are given. Even though it's never explicitly defined."

Since conditionality is proposed to rise to 35 hours under UC, this will be an increase in the implicit definition of full-time within the benefits system.

Marisco

I used to work 8.30am until 5.00pm every day apart from Wed affie and Sat, and I considered that full time! It took up a lot of my bloody time anyway Years ago I did work part time, alternative one week of mornings and one week of afternoons. That to me is part time.