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New pension proposals
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Sorry, this thread and MSE aren't just for your own sole use. Or opinions.
Personally, unlike many here, I am glad to hear that those close to retirement won't be affected badly as it isn't fair if they don't have enough time to make plans for retirement. Won't find too many like me supporting that cause, but I beleive fair is fair.
And Fair means fair to all, including the taxpayers that pay for your pensions. And insisting you work as long as we do, and pay in more is fair. I am personally hoping to see more reform in Pensions for MPs which I feel are far too generous.0 -
Oh so not those directly affected. Typical "I can't have it, so your not getting it" attitude. Go sort your own private pension problems out and leave us to sort ours with our employers.
Your employers, as it seems to have slipped your mind, are taxpayers.It only takes one tree to make a thousand matches, it only takes one match to burn a thousand trees. As well, the cars are all passing me, bright lights are flashing me.
Johnny Was. Once.
Why did he think "systolic" ?0 -
As am I and all Public Sector workers! My contract is with the Government, not with taxpayers.
You're not actually, no-one who receives all their income from the state is a taxpayer, it's an accounting trick.It only takes one tree to make a thousand matches, it only takes one match to burn a thousand trees. As well, the cars are all passing me, bright lights are flashing me.
Johnny Was. Once.
Why did he think "systolic" ?0 -
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I think it's a trick that these words spill out of your head and onto this thread! :rotfl:You're not actually, no-one who receives all their income from the state is a taxpayer, it's an accounting trick.
No one with any brain cells could countenance anything other than I signed a contract with a Government Department.0 -
I think it's a trick that these words spill out of your head and onto this thread! :rotfl:
No one with any brain cells could countenance anything other than I signed a contract with a Government Department.
I don't really see amything remotely amusing about the fact that part of my earnings are stolen from me under threat of forcible incarceration to fund other people.
I'd love to play some more, but I have to do some work.It only takes one tree to make a thousand matches, it only takes one match to burn a thousand trees. As well, the cars are all passing me, bright lights are flashing me.
Johnny Was. Once.
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bigfreddiel wrote: »If you don't like working in the private sector then join the public sector and you too can have a gold plated pension!
Last I checked, they weren't hiring lol.
anyway, I have lots of friends in the public Sector. who are all intelligent enough to know that even with the proposed changes, their pensions are going to be a great deal for them and are staying in. I even have a relative who Double Dipped by retiring and then going back to work as a 'consultant'. He is very very happy with his pension that he took early.
The new pensions may be Silver plated rather than gold, but a good pension all the same.0 -
I'd view the 10 year concession as a very unfair measure, considering it objectively.Personally, unlike many here, I am glad to hear that those close to retirement won't be affected badly as it isn't fair if they don't have enough time to make plans for retirement. Won't find too many like me supporting that cause, but I beleive fair is fair.
The people who benefit most from it are those who were going to lose the least from the reform.
They are also the same group who has benefitted the most from the unsustainable final salary NRA 60 arrangements.
With State Pension age, it is legitimate to have concerns about notice. Whilst people retiring early should be prepared for legislative risk, it is true that once folk have left work they will find it harder to respond to loss. But here, the people involved are still employed, so the same argument doesn't apply.
As a bargaining chip though, it is a very valuable concession to offer to ensure a significant number will stop opposing the reforms, and you know they will all be leaving the scheme soon anyways
Even better to put it on the table for a short time only, to ensure that the group not only don't oppose, but actively start supporting the reforms. 0 -
Well my ballot paper sent off, voted "No" to strike, but how many have already voted who may have also voted no if the knew of this concession?0
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