Life is a game of chance...

TruckerT

esuhl wrote: »

We exist in a twilight world in the grey area between certainty and randomness where our decisions can only be based on our best guess of the probabilistic outcomes.

That sounds like the perfect breeding ground for extremism

TruckerT

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macaque wrote: »

Do you find it ironic Mr Trucker that your profession could bring the economy to a halt in 12 hours and yet the banks get the big bonuses and the bail outs?

Currently, most people hate truckers, and too many people still think that bankers are victims of George Brown and Alastair Darling

I think that on the whole, truckers simply do their job and then go home

Bankers seem to fail to do their job, and then go on an expensive knees-up at our expense

TruckerT

ps sorry, i meant Gordon brown...

ILW

TruckerT wrote: »

Currently, most people hate truckers, and too many people still think that bankers are victims of George Brown and Alastair Darling

I think that on the whole, truckers simply do their job and then go home

Bankers seem to fail to do their job, and then go on an expensive knees-up at our expense

TruckerT

ps sorry, i meant Gordon brown...

As a matter of interest regarding your profession, do many truck drivers believe that if they drive 3 feet from the truck in front of them, it will get them to their destination any quicker? Or is it slipstreaming to save fuel?

TruckerT

ILW wrote: »

As a matter of interest regarding your profession, do many truck drivers believe that if they drive 3 feet from the truck in front of them, it will get them to their destination any quicker? Or is it slipstreaming to save fuel?

It's because, unlike bankers and politicians, we are more concerned with saving the world than with saving our own skins

TruckerT

ILW

TruckerT wrote: »

It's because, unlike bankers and politicians, we are more concerned with saving the world than with saving our own skins

TruckerT

Have you seen the M25 today?

Closed for 7 hours due to a truck dumping diesel all over the carriageway.

esuhl

TruckerT wrote: »

That sounds like the perfect breeding ground for extremism

Ha ha! I'm not sure whether you're refusing to accept the limits of human understanding (in which case you're delusional), have fundamentally misunderstood my argument (which only refers to the way in which we choose to act based on expected outcomes and completely ignores any argument of morality), or are merely pointing out the existence of extremism in this world (which hardly needs commenting on).

Perhaps if you can clarify what you mean by a "breeding ground for extremism" and the way in which a lack of omniscient objectivity gives rise to such a condition then I might be able to respond to your concerns.

Surely the very fact that I've said that we can't be certain of the outcome of most of our decisions means that you must avoid the absolute black-and-white thinking that is characteristic of extremism?

TruckerT

ILW wrote: »

Have you seen the M25 today?

Closed for 7 hours due to a truck dumping diesel all over the carriageway.

Did you see the news tonight?

Greece is considering the possibility of war

TruckerT

TruckerT

esuhl wrote: »

any argument of morality

morality is like truth - it blows in the wind

TruckerT

ps with acknowledgements to Sir Bob Dylan

esuhl

TruckerT wrote: »

morality is like truth - it blows in the wind

TruckerT

ps with acknowledgements to Sir Bob Dylan

Well I do agree that morality "blows in the wind". :beer:

But truth is, by definition, er... true. It's just that we end up "blowing in the wind" in our quest to find it.

The "blowing in the wind" is random (or pseudorandom or chaotic or complex), but our quest is not. So I wouldn't say that everything happens "quite by chance" - it's just that it is impossible to predict every outcome of a particular action.

TruckerT

esuhl wrote: »

Well I do agree that morality "blows in the wind". :beer:

But truth is, by definition, er... true. It's just that we end up "blowing in the wind" in our quest to find it.

The "blowing in the wind" is random (or pseudorandom or chaotic or complex), but our quest is not. So I wouldn't say that everything happens "quite by chance" - it's just that it is impossible to predict every outcome of a particular action.

I agree with most of what you say, but truth does vary with time

Not long ago, black people were inferior to white, and homosexuals were perverts

That is no longer the truth

TruckerT