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Aberdeen. ASPC Q3 2011. Most properties in most areas falling.

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  • The facts and the graphs I've presented speak for themselves.

    I'm not interested in your attempts now to deflect of tangent.
    reference your bold summation
    Can we? Let's look at the data: -

    Aberdeen City Transaction Levels (Jul-Sep 11) - 1343
    Aberdeen City Transaction Levels (Apr-Jun 11) - 1041
    Up 29.0% in the quarter

    Aberdeen City Resedential Value Sales (Jul-Sep 11) - £255238,605
    Aberdeen City Resedential Value Sales (Apr-Jun 11) - £190,225,963
    Up 34.2%

    Aberdeen City Detached Average (Jul-Sep 11) - £335,384
    Aberdeen City Detached Average (Apr-Jun 11) - £345,277
    Down 2.9%

    Aberdeen City Detached sales (Jul-Sep 11) - 153
    Aberdeen City Detached sales (Apr-Jun 11) - 104
    Up 47.1%

    Aberdeen City Semi-Detached Average (Jul-Sep 11) - £227,157
    Aberdeen City Semi-Detached Average (Apr-Jun 11) - £229,485
    Down 1.0%

    Aberdeen City Semi-Detached sales (Jul-Sep 11) - 195
    Aberdeen City Semi-Detached sales (Apr-Jun 11) - 135
    Up 44.4%


    Aberdeen City Terraced Average (Jul-Sep 11) - £187,765
    Aberdeen City Terraced Average (Apr-Jun 11) - £174,983
    Up 7.3%

    Aberdeen City Terraced sales (Jul-Sep 11) - 370
    Aberdeen City Terraced sales (Apr-Jun 11) - 311
    Up 19.0%

    Aberdeen City Flats Average (Jul-Sep 11) - £142,732
    Aberdeen City Flats Average (Apr-Jun 11) - £138,210
    Up 3.3%

    Aberdeen City Flats sales (Jul-Sep 11) - 625
    Aberdeen City Flats sales (Apr-Jun 11) - 491
    Up 27.3%



    Actually, the data shows that : -

    153 Detached fell on average £9,893
    195 Semi detached fell on average £2,328
    348 Aberdeen City Properties fell on average £5,653

    370 Terraced rose on average £12,782
    625 Flats rose on average £4,522
    995 Aberdeen City Properties rose on average £7,593

    Whilst we cannot implicitly define that most properties in most area rose, the data certainly point to that as opposed to the OP's blanket statement

    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • geneer
    geneer Posts: 4,220 Forumite
    The figures of course speak for themselves. :)
    geneer wrote: »
    Q3 figures hot of the press for Aberdeen.
    Can't imagine why these haven't been posted sooner.


    http://www.aspc.co.uk/Documents/HousePrices-2011Q2.pdf
    http://www.aspc.co.uk/Documents/HousePrices-2011Q3.pdf

    £13K drop QoQ.

    Zoom in on the City Centre. Down £17K.
  • geneer wrote: »
    The figures of course speak for themselves. :)


    Indeed, and your absolute desperation to use the latest QoQ results to try and gain some mythical points that the area has decreased £13k in the quarter does not consider that the same index rose £17k from Q1 to Q2.

    I don't recall anyone proclaiming that the Q2 was denefiting from rampant HPI, thus why would anyone get their knicker in a twist to the figures returning to above Q1 levels.

    Context and analysis geneer.
    Context and analysis
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • geneer
    geneer Posts: 4,220 Forumite
    edited 7 November 2011 at 8:02PM
    Hiya Light. Thought you were letting the numbers speak for themselves. :rotfl:

    Indeed, and your absolute desperation to use the latest QoQ results to try and gain some mythical points that the area has decreased £13k in the quarter does not consider that the same index rose £17k from Q1 to Q2.

    I don't recall anyone proclaiming that the Q2 was denefiting from rampant HPI, thus why would anyone get their knicker in a twist to the figures returning to above Q1 levels.

    I never mentioned Q1 to Q2 light. You did.
    I simply presented the facts.
    But lets see. Massive £17K spike + whopper of a £13K fall.
    Or what Light would call, stagnation. :rotfl:

    I think not.
  • geneer wrote: »
    I never mentioned Q1 to Q2 light. You did.
    I simply presented the facts.

    Context and analysis geneer.
    Context and analysis
    geneer wrote: »
    But lets see. Massive £17K spike + whopper of a £13K fall.
    Or what Light would call, stagnation. :rotfl:

    I think not.

    When you consider the impact by the methodology, it's probably yes.


    unledazt.png

    When you look at the wider picture, the latest Q3 results are +0.93% (IIRC) above that 4 3/4 year average.

    But your not one to consider the figures and methodology are you.
    Have a nice day :p
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • geneer
    geneer Posts: 4,220 Forumite
    Context and analysis geneer.
    Context and analysis

    :rotfl:When we look at ROS YOY figures you want to analyse quarterlies. When we look at quarterlies you want to analyse more long term. But not yoy.

    You're quite a wriggler light. ;)


    When you consider the impact by the methodology

    In english please.
    What does that even mean.
    it's probably yes.

    probably not. "normal seasonal variations". Sorry. no. ;)


    But your not one to consider the figures and methodology are you.
    Have a nice day :p

    :rotfl:Rich coming from you Light. You seem to want to consider any methodology other than whats been tabled.

    Including some goofy methodology you've made up yourself.

    When you look at the wider picture, the latest Q3 results are +0.93% (IIRC) above that 4 3/4 year average.

    When you look at the picture frames and ignore the picture you mean.

    :T
  • geneer wrote: »
    :T

    the facts are clear for all to see.

    As you have no other input worthy of further discussion on this thread, I bid you a good day.
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • geneer
    geneer Posts: 4,220 Forumite
    the facts are clear for all to see.

    Indeed they are....
    geneer wrote: »
    Q3 figures hot of the press for Aberdeen.
    Can't imagine why these haven't been posted sooner.


    http://www.aspc.co.uk/Documents/HousePrices-2011Q2.pdf
    http://www.aspc.co.uk/Documents/HousePrices-2011Q3.pdf

    £13K drop QoQ.

    Zoom in on the City Centre. Down £17K.

    As you have no other input worthy of further discussion on this thread, I bid you a good day.

    My original input was quite worthy of discussion actually.
    You simply didn't want to discuss it. I think we can all see why :rotfl:
    And a good day to you sir.
  • missile
    missile Posts: 11,886 Forumite
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    geneer wrote: »
    My clear and regularly expressed view on this is that the overall averages are heavily skewed by low volumes and two tier markets.
    This makes them less than useful in identifying real trends. ...
    So why did you post them? :o
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  • geneer wrote: »
    Indeed they are....

    My original input was quite worthy of discussion actually.
    You simply didn't want to discuss it. I think we can all see why :rotfl:
    And a good day to you sir.

    A leopard never changes it's spots.
    Despite additional relevant expansive information, you choose to continue to blinker your view.

    I've acknowledged Q2 to Q3 is down, I've also explained Q1 to Q2 rose by more.

    I've tried to get you to consider the methodology to an extent you accepted, yet you still bash out the headline figures despite the additional information that has been presented.

    Your views may be blinkered, but you have not fooled the majority who are able to see past your fogging of the facts.
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
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