Compliment from beautician

Isklar

Citygirl1 wrote: »

Thank you

Actually a few people have told me that my skin isn't too bad for my age. Again I am not blowing my own trumpet, just saying you don't have to have a complex routine to get decent skin. Personally I think my skin looks drab but when people give me a compliment its a bit of a boost.

As for the wipes, yes I have been using them at night but I do use a cleanser in a morning so then my skin gets the good clean.

I am considering trying the muslin cloth routine again though as that does seem quick, apart from the cloths being a bit of a faff.

So you have nice skin. Does this mean you'll now stop endlessly posting the same questions about Liz Earle C&P vs Clinique vs Boots no 7 etc? :rotfl:
You seem to ask the same questions over and over, skincare, eye liner, powder, and I wondered if it's because you lack confidence in your looks. Now you've had a compliment - not only that but other people tell you your skin is good. Why not focus on that from now on?

(As for the wipes, I'm a similar age to you and my honest opinion is that over time, and continuous repeated use, they are far too harsh for delicate skin.)

skypie123_2

Isklar wrote: »

So you have nice skin. Does this mean you'll now stop endlessly posting the same questions about Liz Earle C&P vs Clinique vs Boots no 7 etc? :rotfl:
You seem to ask the same questions over and over, skincare, eye liner, powder, and I wondered if it's because you lack confidence in your looks. Now you've had a compliment - not only that but other people tell you your skin is good. Why not focus on that from now on?

(As for the wipes, I'm a similar age to you and my honest opinion is that over time, and continuous repeated use, they are far too harsh for delicate skin.)

Blimey what a b*tchy post!
Who died and made you Moderator of what OP can and cannot post, and how dare you summarise that because she is interested in makeup and skin care and asks questions on this, a Healthy and Beauty forum, that she must be lacking in self confidence?? :eek:

Mojisola

Citygirl1 wrote: »

when i had a facial earlier the girl told me I have good skin. I'm not blowing my own trumpet just saying that I got this compliment and just use face wipes at night and wash with a cleanser in a morning, nothing too expensive either, so maybe its not always worth buying expensive skincare or having complicated regimes.

I think it's got a lot to do with your genes. If you're fortunate enough to inherit good skin, it almost doesn't matter what your beauty regime is.

lessonlearned

Well done on the compliments about your skin, Citygirl. You must be doing something right.

I am a qualified beauty therapist and oddly enough I went for a facial yesterday - using a birthday present voucher. The beautician didn't know me because I had not visited that salon before.

She told me I had good skin and saw me smile. I then explained why I was smiling. I told her that as a beautician myself I ought to have decent skin. We had a good laugh.

Anyway we had a good old natter about skincare and although she was a good 30 to 40 years younger than me we were in total agreement about what makes a good skin care routine.

So for anyone who is interested here are a few golden rules. You'll be pleased to know that most of them are free. All they cost is a little bit of time and forethought.

And yes, good genes are important - they do give you a great advantage. However, you can ruin that advantage through carelessness and neglect so I would say that it is worth making a bit of an effort.

Firstly remember that your race, colouring and skin type will also have a very real bearing on how you age.

A fair skinned pale blonde or redhead will generally have far more delicate skin than a raven haired olive skinned person. Also PH balance is important - most "Oriental" type skins have a different PH balance to European skin and have better sun protection.

So a few tips.

The Don'ts

Don't smoke.
Don't fry in the sun, avoid sun beds
Don't use harsh products that strip the skin's natural oils and disturb its' PH balance.
Don't go on crash low fat diets - you skin needs oils and fats so that it can hold moisture. No natural oils = no moisture = dry skin which will be more wrinkle prone.

The Dos

A healthy diet to include some oily fish - salmon, sardines etc, plenty of fruit and veg
Drink water - you knew that :rotfl:
Exercise - will help pump the blood round your body drawing impurities away from the skin and feeding oxygen and nutrients to the skin.
Facial exercises - will exercise the underlying muscles and help keep the skin supple - there are various books and tutorials around = google Eva Fraser
Facial massage - you can do this yourself - again google for tutorials
Sleep - as much as you can get - yes a girl really does need her beauty sleep

The next few will cost you a few pennies

Keep skin clean - which method you use will be trial and error. It doesn't have to be expensive. Some people swear by the OCM, some people prefer cleansing bars, lotions etc. Normal "toilet soap" is generally too harsh and can disturb your skin's PH balance and strip the natural oils. If your skin feels "tight" after cleansing your products are too strong.

Moisturise. There is so much rubbish and "cod" science written about moisturisers - nano technology this and peptide that.

The purpose of a moisturiser is to lock in moisture that should already be in your skin. That's why you need to drink to replace moisture lost by the body through evaporation and perspiration.

A good moisturiser doesn't need to be expensive. One of the best forms of moisturiser is oil, almond oil is nice, olive, grape seed oil are all good. A lot of older Meditteranean women still relie on olive oil for most of their beauty needs. A good moisturiser contains humectants (they draw in moisture from the air). You could just slap pure glycerine on your face but it doesn't have a very nice consistency and is very sticky. Victorian ladies relied on a glycerine and rose water combo.

If you really don't like the idea of oil then just a basic moisturiser which suits you will be fine, unfortunately it can be trial and error finding the right one.

Most "advanced" treatment creams which promise to banish wrinkles and deliver eternal youth are a total waste of money.

My thoughts are

If they were to work by using nanotechnology so that the active ingredients do actually permeate through to the epidermis, I would be rather concerned about the long term effects. Are they safe. Is there a long term build up and could they be carcinogenic.

If a cream can get right through to the epidermis, then it can pass into the blood stream. (Remember your basic biology - capillaries taking clean oxygenated blood one way and draining the lymphatic system the other way).

As you can see I don't trust them. I know the science is supposed to be perfectly safe but they've not really been around long enough to measure the long term effects. Sorry to be a scaremongerer but I'm really not convinced about their long term safety and prefer to stick to natural products and methods.

Finally - supplements. Fish oils, evening primrose oil,etc are an excellent way of helping to add extra nutrients and well worth the couple of £'s a month.

Isklar

skypie123 wrote: »

Blimey what a b*tchy post!
Who died and made you Moderator of what OP can and cannot post, and how dare you summarise that because she is interested in makeup and skin care and asks questions on this, a Healthy and Beauty forum, that she must be lacking in self confidence?? :eek:

It wasn't intended to be b*tchy at all. Sorry you thought it was.

Citygirl I apologise if you were offended/hurt/insulted by my post, and I hope you have read it in the spirit it was intended.

Citygirl1

Isklar wrote: »

It wasn't intended to be b*tchy at all. Sorry you thought it was.

Citygirl I apologise if you were offended/hurt/insulted by my post, and I hope you have read it in the spirit it was intended.

Hi, I must admit your earlier post does appear bitc*y but I accept your apology and now know that it wasn't intended to be.

As Skypie says, I thought this was a free for all forum where you can post anything you like about health and beauty.

raven83

ive been using the OCM (oil cleansing method) for the last month and my skin is the best its ever been in a while, no more oil slicks! But people of comment on my skin that is nice etc and i dont really do anything fancy apart from the OCM, and i use a foundation for oily skin and i drink loads of water but thats only because i love water anyway! Think at the end of the day it comes down to genes!

Isklar

Citygirl1 wrote: »

Hi, I must admit your earlier post does appear bitc*y but I accept your apology and now know that it wasn't intended to be.

As Skypie says, I thought this was a free for all forum where you can post anything you like about health and beauty.

Please explain to me what exactly was b*tchy about it. What was malicious or mean?
I've been reading here for several years, I don't post much, but I do read this board every day, and I've noticed that you post about the same topics over and over. I can understand someone asking ONCE about foundation vs tinted moisturiser, or liquid eyeliner, or about whether to still use powder at our age, or about which cleanser is best for dry skin. But you have repeatedly asked the same questions over and over. I am sorry but I read your uncertainty, and reasons for asking so often, as a lack of confidence. And I hoped that someone complimenting you on your skin would help to boost your confidence.
Maybe I'm a b*tch because I'm the only person who has noticed that you ask the same questions over and over? I just think it's odd that you need to ask the same thing time and time again. But I don't believe that makes me mean or malicious.

Snuggles

Isklar wrote: »

Please explain to me what exactly was b*tchy about it. What was malicious or mean?
I've been reading here for several years, I don't post much, but I do read this board every day, and I've noticed that you post about the same topics over and over. I can understand someone asking ONCE about foundation vs tinted moisturiser, or liquid eyeliner, or about whether to still use powder at our age, or about which cleanser is best for dry skin. But you have repeatedly asked the same questions over and over. I am sorry but I read your uncertainty, and reasons for asking so often, as a lack of confidence. And I hoped that someone complimenting you on your skin would help to boost your confidence.
Maybe I'm a b*tch because I'm the only person who has noticed that you ask the same questions over and over? I just think it's odd that you need to ask the same thing time and time again. But I don't believe that makes me mean or malicious.

You apologise to Citygirl in case your post offended her, and when she says it did and graciously accepts your apology, you have another go

I have also noticed before that Citygirl posts a lot of questions, but this is a health and beauty forum, and if you get bored of the questions just don't read her posts. Is it really your place to start analysing why she asks these things - perhaps she is just very interested in make up etc?

melancholly

angelil wrote: »

So, citygirl, what do you say to those of us who've had awful skin since we were ten years old, and for whom *nothing* has ever worked really well?

indeed... or those of us who have always had bad skin, as have various family members so there's clearly a genetic link.

the thing about skincare is that there really isn't a one size fits all solution. people can get all evangelical about what works for them, but for others it won't necessarily work. it's great if people find what works for them but the idea that that means all other advice is pointless is a step too far.

personally, i think using face wipes every day is bad for the environment and for that reason alone, i wouldn't do it. a flannel and hot water are the starting points for me, with a cleanser of some sort. now i know that plenty of cleansers will have bad enviromental consequences too, but there is something about the move to make everything 'disposable' that doesn't sit comfortably with me.