Lone Parent IS, Carer's Premium?

sacapuntas

Sorry, I've only just seen these responses. The house he's hoping to get is just down the road about a 5-minute walk from my house, so I had planned on going over every morning after taking my son (4) to school, which is directly across the street from my house, helping him with housework, medication, making breakfast, etc. while he also gets to visit with my daughter before I take her to preschool (which is across the street from HIS [prospective] house. So I'd be there for around 2.5 hours in the mornings. Then I'd plan on picking up my son and daughter and taking them both round to his in the afternoons and letting him visit with them while I do laundry, washing up, any cleaning, more help with medication, putting out clothes, any dinner stuff, etc. and leaving about an hour before my kids' bedtime, which would probably make for another 2.5-3 hours there. Weekends wouldn't be the exact same schedule because the kids aren't in school, but he would still need help in the mornings and evenings minimum.

I'm most bothered about NOT looking like a fraud. If that means no carer's allowance, so be it, although it would make a big difference, as £55/week (or what it would be after it's worked out with IS] is nothing to sniff at for me! If it turned out it isn't advisable for me to continue receiving carer's allowance, I'd still be doing the same amount of caring unless something happened and we could no longer be civil to one another.

I'm mailing the new child benefit claim for both kids on Monday and as soon as he's actually moved out I'm going to notify carer's allowance, tax credits, housing benefit and so on and make whatever new applications need to be made.

Oldernotwiser

epitome wrote: »

Yes that would stretch it, and I don't know. But £31 - £55 pw is not a lot for the average carer who does maybe go and collect granddad from his home and bring him over for family dinner so he doesn't have to have meals on wheels at great expense to the state, who cleans his house when they are there and gets some grocery shopping done for him. etc etc

I would be pretty cross if I thought that someone was claiming CA just for doing that!

epitome

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

I would be pretty cross if I thought that someone was claiming CA just for doing that!

I would be very cross if people like you who can't see the wood for the trees, brought about a change that means either people living in squalor or the cost of care by professionals to the state is ten times higher, all because you wouldn't recompense someone 3o - 55 quid a week for doing these things for people that need doing, that someone needs to do, otherwise the person recieving care before ends up having to go into cared accomodation. Can't you see the huge amount of money being saved from the states pockets by these people?

Oldernotwiser

epitome wrote: »

I would be very cross if people like you who can't see the wood for the trees, brought about a change that means either people living in squalor or the cost of care by professionals to the state is ten times higher, all because you wouldn't recompense someone 3o - 55 quid a week for doing these things for people that need doing, that someone needs to do, otherwise the person recieving care before ends up having to go into cared accomodation. Can't you see the huge amount of money being saved from the states pockets by these people?

You're speaking to someone who cares for her husband and wouldn't think that making his dinner and doing the housework came under the heading of "caring" or that extra money should be given for it, if that was all that was involved.

epitome

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

You're speaking to someone who cares for her husband and wouldn't think that making his dinner and doing the housework came under the heading of "caring" or that extra money should be given for it, if that was all that was involved.

And what of the people who don't have anyone to make their dinner, wash their clothes, do their shopping, cook their dinner etc and they rely on a neighbour or friend to do these things, and the state gives them a pittance of 30 - 55 quid to help them do it.

They are far more likely to find someone who will do these things if these people can claim something from the state for doing it. And thus save tax payers money.

There are far more important things to turn your attention to in benefits than this.

Oldernotwiser

epitome wrote: »

And what of the people who don't have anyone to make their dinner, wash their clothes, do their shopping, cook their dinner etc and they rely on a neighbour or friend to do these things, and the state gives them a pittance of 30 - 55 quid to help them do it.

Surely, if they have a neighbour of friend then they do have someone?

Anyway, my post was in response to yours where you were actually talking about a family member being paid to "collect granddad from his home and bring him over for family dinner ".

epitome

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Surely, if they have a neighbour of friend then they do have someone?

And those people would be more inclined to help if they can get some small amount of money for doing it.

Anyway, my post was in response to yours where you were actually talking about a family member being paid to "collect granddad from his home and bring him over for family dinner ".

And the possible petrol involved , the cost of the food, the time taken in doing other chores such as his washing cleaning etc? It all adds up and the person doing it for him might not be able to do it without the CA. Whether you like it or not this all saves the state a huge amount of money.

Oldernotwiser

epitome wrote: »

And those people would be more inclined to help if they can get some small amount of money for doing it.


And the possible petrol involved , the cost of the food, the time taken in doing other chores such as his washing cleaning etc? It all adds up and the person doing it for him might not be able to do it without the CA. Whether you like it or not this all saves the state a huge amount of money.

Don't be daft, why on earth should the state pay for someone to do their grandfather/father's cleaning and for bringing him round for a family dinner? Surely we as a society haven't sunk this low?

From the NHS Choices website,

"Domestic tasks such as housework, cooking and cleaning do not normally count as personal care, but there are exceptions to this general rule."

epitome

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Don't be daft, why on earth should the state pay for someone to do their grandfather/father's cleaning and for bringing him round for a family dinner? Surely we as a society haven't sunk this low?

A family dinner every day of the week.

If the other family is on benefits they may not be able to afford to do this. Or if they are not on bennefits they may have a very tight budget. So they'd have to let the state bring him meals on wheels, and get someone to clean his house. What would probably happen is that the state would not do this, they would put him a care home -paid for by the state.

All because you don't want to give people £31 a week to go towards helping someone out.

You're the one being daft here.