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Rant - over £2,250 for "Luxury" Prison "Suite"

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  • chunter
    chunter Posts: 2,015 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    1900 prison officers for 1800 inmates.
    Each inmate costs £75,000 - according to UTV news tonight.

    Cheaper to buy 1800 chains and posts.
  • x12yhp
    x12yhp Posts: 801 Forumite
    revpeachy wrote: »
    Sorry x12yhp think you may have gone off on bit of a tangent...my complaint (rant) is about the sum of money spent on the luxury of picnic tables/cushions/dvd players etc and not in anyway calling for the re-instatement of capital punishment......

    You didn't read fully then! :p I was arguing that it is necessary to maintain a certain level and protect 'rights', whether they are right or wrong. The sum is high and no doubt money savers here could have done it for less but that is how the systems work! No doubt the supplier has won a tender and has to be accredited with this, that and the other... so it is high but in an accountable system, it is not ridiculous.
    Always overestimating...
  • A.L.D.A
    A.L.D.A Posts: 522 Forumite
    emmett123 wrote: »
    of course it should be pointed out that Ms Price has been charged and is awaiting trial. The basis of British law is that a person is innocent until they are proven guilty.

    As such, Ms Price should be afforded every comfort as a innocent person deprived of her liberty.

    of course reminding people of the basis of our law shouldn't interfere with a good old little England rant, makes you nostalgic for the days of Dickens


    Pity we can't transport people to Mars yet!

    x12yhp wrote: »
    The sum is high and no doubt money savers here could have done it for less but that is how the systems work! No doubt the supplier has won a tender and has to be accredited with this, that and the other... so it is high but in an accountable system, it is not ridiculous.

    It does seem high for a television, a blanket, a curtain and a lamp. But really it is a drop in the ocean when you consider the overall cost of the legal system, the PFIs that built Court Houses and the eye watering fees that some charge. The legal system is wonderful in theory, but only the wealthy and those on legal aid can risk going near Court.
    [STRIKE]Less is more.[/STRIKE] No less is Less.
  • Abu Salim 1996.
  • A.L.D.A
    A.L.D.A Posts: 522 Forumite
    Abu Salim 1996.


    Do onto others as ...............................
    [STRIKE]Less is more.[/STRIKE] No less is Less.
  • spike7451
    spike7451 Posts: 6,944 Forumite
    cord123 wrote: »
    Moderately comfy? :mad:

    Why do these people in prisons have rights? And how on earth does that stuff come to over £2k! They need us mse'rs help :rotfl::rotfl:

    They are there for punishment! Make them work for their keep, pay them x amount a day ie. £5 etc to spend on what they want - tv, cushions etc! I am sure if she had to work for it and buy it herself she would soon find that she could do without it!

    Why do they get it so easy..... my husband is a policeman and know serial offenders that just reoffend because life is easier in prison than outside! Absolutely crazy!!!

    In 1996,I was made redundent from the RAF after 12 years service,when I moved back to Bangor,where my parents live,I applied for a house/flat ect.I was told that I did'nt have a connection to the area,despite my parents & the rest of the family living there,& would have to wait seven years for a dwelling.
    On reading thru the literature I was given by the NIHE,IF I was a recently released prisoner I would be automatically entitled to a home,for commiting a crime,yet because I'd chosen my career path & served my country,I didn't qualify.
    Seems to me those that obey the law get screwed yet those that break the law get the breaks!:mad:
  • A.L.D.A
    A.L.D.A Posts: 522 Forumite
    spike7451 wrote: »
    In 1996,I was made redundant from the RAF after 12 years service,when I moved back to Bangor,where my parents live,I applied for a house/flat ect.I was told that I didn't have a connection to the area,despite my parents & the rest of the family living there,& would have to wait seven years for a dwelling.
    On reading thru the literature I was given by the NIHE,IF I was a recently released prisoner I would be automatically entitled to a home,for committing a crime,yet because I'd chosen my career path & served my country,I didn't qualify.
    Seems to me those that obey the law get screwed yet those that break the law get the breaks!:mad:

    I have heard a fair number of similar tales from Services personnel and the need to plan for long tern housing needs. We have a system of benefits that generally seems to assist the crafty and fails to deliver for many who are in real need.
    [STRIKE]Less is more.[/STRIKE] No less is Less.
  • This is because sometime in the past 100 years, starting with Lloyd George, the government moved from employing 'stick' methods to 'carrot' ones for controlling crime - which incidentally we used to refer to as 'sin'.

    The end consequence will be social collapse. We've already reached this denouement in some of the 'poorest' areas of the United Kingdom where the sole unifying body in life is benefit uptake and contempt for work.

    I live in such an area and whilst being blessed to be on its fringe, which is exceptionally quiet, I understand all too well that had I 'invested' two streets around the corner I would be living beside flag-waving thugs, murals of gunmen, paramilitary-run drinking clubs (dressed up as sporting fraternities) and would be treated with disdain as an outsider (no I'm not simply paranoid or exaggerating), if not with contempt or even violence.

    I have a friend who works in the area and his employment, in a respectable role earning 23k, requires that he wear a suit. When he walks through the local park at lunch he tells me local kids square up when he walks by or snigger; if in the evening he is going through the same park at night, with a hoodie up, looking anonymous and "hard", the same locals say "right mate?"

    This society is run and operated along the most perverted and inverse moral lines, and it stretches right from the housing estates of west and north Belfast to the gunmen running Stormont.
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