is it necessary to use a mouth wash?

Sublime_2

I find a salt wash preferable (usually seasalt, as is what I use for cooking). Its very gentle, and a natural antiseptic, although have used a commercial one occasionally.

Just need a little salt dissolved in warm water. Its very effective.

j.e.j.

Red Doe I don't think some people know the meaning of 'disagreeing politely' :rotfl: :rotfl:

coldstreamalways

j.e.j. wrote: »

Red Doe I don't think some people know the meaning of 'disagreeing politely' :rotfl: :rotfl:

j.e.j I know you enjoy posting somewhat controversial stirrings but there is a difference between politely disagreeing with someone's opinion and disagreeing with someone who is posting outright untruths on the net. The "sugar in toothpaste" story is an outright lie and I will continue to defend this.

In the UK, this year, children will die from dental infections that could have been prevented by the correct use of Fluoridated toothpaste. That is a fact.

Sugar in toothpaste is a scaremongering lie and if ANYONE is put off using toothpaste because of it then it is a dangerous lie.

I want parents to be well informed about how to prevent their children encountering painful and possibly life threatening infections.

If Red Doe feels that the "research" carries out by the school outweighs the myriad peer reviewed and scientifically backed up studies that have been carried out then this is a mutinational scoop that billions of people worldwide would benefit from knowing. The fact that no-one in the world agrees with Red Doe and the School's research speaks volumes to me.

brook2jack

The difficulty is that this thread may be read by many who may be under the impression that what red doe is saying is as valid as advice given by thousands of dentists ie spit dont rinse and the results of a school experiment are as valid as published ingredient lists which have by law to be validated and the results of decades of research into use of toothpaste.The only reason so many people buy mouthwash when the evidence is for most people it has no or negative health benefits is the triumph of advertising over research. Unfortunately in this country thousands of children and adults pay the price for poor oral care and habits much of it caused by misinformation. For toothpaste to work at its best it must be left in contact with the teeth as long as possible.Dont rinse and dont use mouthwash immediately afterwards preferably not at all but if you must leave it an hour after brushing.

j.e.j.

[STRIKE]Mr[/STRIKE] Mrs Coldstream, I am not getting into the sugar in toothpaste debate. There are dentists on here who post helpful, informative advice and other forum users are grateful for this.


I was more referring to one or two dentist/forum users who have a habit of using this board in order to sound off at others in a most aggressive, self-righteous way

If this is your idea of 'controversial stirrings' by all means talk to the MSE team.

Apollonia

@brook2jack, coldstreamalways and toothsmith;

To be fair, none of you know how old Red Doe and her daughter are.

The school of CBBC has this information -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/clips/p00h5z39

and it may be that when her daughter was at school, her toothpaste did have sugar in it...

:rotfl:

coldstreamalways

Apollonia, you are absolutely right. Thank you.

j.e.j. I am a Mrs dentist I know this may appear controversial but yes it is true. In fact, more Mrs dentists will graduate this year than Mr dentists. It makes CPD far more exciting that way.

My issue is that dentistry in the UK is more regulated than anywhere else yet still, we can give our collective opinion (which Probably amounts to almost 100 years of practice, CPD and more reading of research on top) and still, a high school science project is more accurate.

Seriously? I don't know why we continue to give advice on here when some people disregard our professional opinions for something they were told in the pub etc.

j.e.j.

Thanks, mrs coldstream, will edit my post
I have a lady dentist, too. And the dentistry students I used to share a flat with were girls, now you mention it..

With regard to your last paragraph, take a look at Martin's sticky at the top.

Rgds.

kazd

I was told by one dentist that children should only have sugar once a week, I was then told by my dentist that this was not practical and that the children would feel deprived and that twice a week is acceptable.
To this end we have had sweetie and can night twice a week, usually a Friday and Saturday. My children are now 17, 14 and 11 and are all filling free of which I am very proud.

Obviously over the years there have been exceptions ie kids parties etc.

As a child I was always petrified of the dentist and did not want my children to suffer the same way as my fear meant that I did not go to the dentist for years and the result of course was lots of fillings when I did pluck up the courage to go.

brook2jack

To be frank your children eat sugar every day in all probability. Many foods have sugar in them from pure fruit juice to most breakfast cereals to soups etc. It is not a problem to eat or drink sugary things as part of three meals day.It is what you eat and drink in between meals that is the problem and your children have done well probably because of resticting what they ate or drank between meals. Unfortunately the average British person eats seven times a day! Even a mouthfull of coffee with one sugar or a plain digestive which contains three spoons of sugar will attack the teeth for an hour afterwards.