Response from Civil Enforcement Ltd

anon42

Hello,

I visited this website after contacting CEltd asking which law exactly was in question, apparently it is contract law. I now know I should have ignored it or stated I was not driving, anyone wish to offer this anon some advice?

Also I live in Scotland and hence consideration does not apply in contract law


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Hadeon

Some advice coming up - IGNORE, totally utterly & completely from now on.
Also have a good browse around this forum for added reassurance, CEL are well known here.
I post from personal experience of these scammers.
They're nothing to get concerned about & just have an irritation factor akin to scraping something nasty you've stepped in off your shoe,

esmerobbo

So they wrote to you in Scotland and tell you they will issue county court proceedings???? Says a lot don't you think?

Ignore the Morons!

bondy_lad

richard heads,, totally ignore,, all they want is your hard earned cash,, they cannot get it,,they wont do court,,as they know they will lose,,,clowns,,,relax.

marshy99

I'll tell you about my experience:
Got "caught" in a supermarket carpark in Feb.
Car isnt registered in my name, so all letters go to them.
First 5 letters were the usual scaremail, with the figures continuously rising. £45 - £90 - £180
Then of course it goes to Newlynn. From day one we've ignored as per this site (thanks all )
The letters of course get slightly worse, we all know the script...we may take you to court, we may remove items, etc etc.
However the most recent letter was the most interesting. Addressed to "the occupier", with the title "we are trying to trace xxx xxxx"
Fine, I can understand this question as they may fear they have sent all these horrid letters and missed their intended target!
Now here is the interesting bit:
Questions on the letter
When did you buy the house?
Which solicitor did you use?
What is your national insurance number?
Council tax number?
Date of purchase?
Now, as I said, we know they can send some pretty horrid letters, however should this one fall onto your doorstep, we have a different issue.
Should this fall upon someones doorstep and they indeed had no knowledge of this, how many would give such sensitive info out??
Rules as far as I understand them
1. The DRIVER is responsible for any fine...they have to prove beyond reasonable doubt who was in charge of the vehicle, as it was February I havent a clue
2. This falls under contract law that they are entitled to "loss of earnings" - as they don't own the land, nor the supermarket they havent lost anything.
3. Under data protection act, any information about you should be available, they were asking for £10 for a photo, which is unreasonable.
4. I would like to see how secure their computer systems are, as again, data should be kept secure.
5. How long do they keep data? They havent any accreditation that all financial institutes need.
6. Threatening letters are harassment.
7. Baliffs need to be assigned by a court, I dream of the day that one turns up. They wont be official, they will be trespassing, and I shall release the hounds

Finally, I will just say this, continue to ignore them, let them make the first move, and should they take you to court, let me come along and watch them get laughed out of the door!!

Coupon-mad

Send a copy of the Newlyn letters to Trading Standards with a complaint, making it clear that you are aware that this is a fake PCN with no merit anyway. But say that the wording of Newlyn's letters surely breaks the OfT guidance for debt collection, ask them to investigate.