When is smoking inside, really inside?

biscit

It's not jargon it's just a mature, adult form of expression.

rustyboy21

biscit wrote: »

It's not jargon it's just a mature, adult form of expression.

From a non smoker

Techhead_2

rustyboy21 wrote: »

From a non smoker

You have a low opinion of smokers if you think they need to be spoken to in a special way.

Sometimes, as with a business owner allowing food workers to smoke, you just have to say it: Its wrong. If they are so insecure as to be offended by that, well that's their issue.

Biketrials08

rustyboy21 wrote: »

This is what has become the norm, since the smoking ban took place.

I went to a manufacturers the other week. Previously in 2004 they had a bus shelter at the bottom of the car park, with a yellow line around the vicinity of it showing where smoking was allowed. Out of the yellow line and the staff could be sacked for gross misconduct. The shelter was lovely and warm.

This time I went for a fag and one whole side had been taken down, the other 3 sides were cut down by 2/3 rds and it was bleedin freezing !
Your choice to smoke and to smoke there and then.

The yellow line was still there. The shelter is to the correct percentage of open area for the law. Seems really silly. Whilst there we went out to a country pub ( really old) for a meal. Due to no smoke, it reeked of stale beer and god knows what else, put me off my food !
Just like smoking does to non-smokers, stale beer is not a strong smell (can't even recall what it's like) and does not require me to wash my clothes and hair when I get home.

Think it would have been better with smoke in there !

The smoking law wasnt thought out properly in fact it has caused more problems than it solved, When it was legal to smoke in a pub you didn't have lager louts outside smoking, they were all inside. You can't pass a pub now without feeling threatend or on the look out.
Some truth to this but I still prefer it this way.

Was howling with laughter one time when at the local hospital with mate. were standing with all the patients having a quick smoke before we went in. All of a sudden a recorded message came on saying you are smoking in a non smoking zone, a security man is on the way to caution you. When he arrived a little old lady with a fag in her gob and on an IV drip, piped up '' So it's not ok to smoke here, but you would do f**k all if you saw a junky jacking up on heroin would you you cowardly b*****d '' He went red in the face and skulked off ! :rotfl:
yeah really funny, lets remove healthcare for smokers - now that would make me smile...:T

Also, judging from your original message, I'm guessing you've been a smoker for a long time.

davemorton

Yeah, remove healthcare for smokers, cracking idea. Oh, and while you are at it, try to fund the NHS without tax revenue from tobacco. (yes,that old chestnut)

rustyboy21

Biketrials08 wrote: »

Also, judging from your original message, I'm guessing you've been a smoker for a long time.

sounds like an ex smoker to me, always on their soap boxes.

Lets also take away funding for drinkers too. Who clogs up A&E on a weekend most, smokers or drinker?

Harry_Flashman

rustyboy21 wrote: »

Lets also take away funding for drinkers too. Who clogs up A&E on a weekend most, smokers or drinker?

Or football players, or walkers, or etc etc

At least smokers put back into the system.

CHR15

Smoking shelters at our work consist of mostly metal framework (ex bus-stop), a few sporadic bits of glass in them.
The smokers MUST remain within the confines of the metal framework.

A smoker can stand within the framework blowing smoke OUT of the shelter, but a smoker cannot stand outside the framwork blowing smoke INTO the shelter.

Employer smoking rules are the very lifesource of pedants on soapboxes.

As long as they are a sensible distance away from non smokers I couldn't give a hoot if they are inside their little metal frame or 20 feet behind it on the grass.

timbstoke

I'm a non-smoker, but I do think the government missed a trick with the smoking ban. The answer is obvious and blindingly simple: Licensing.

A certain number of pubs, which must have at least two rooms available, can apply, and pay, for a smoking license for one of the rooms (in the same way older pubs had the Bar and Lounge - smoking was often allowed in the bar, but not the lounge). Once the quota of smoking licenses has been used, no more will be issued until either a venue loses its license for breaching the conditions, at which point their license becomes available for someone else to apply for, or the license reaches its expiry date, at which point the license can be applied for by anyone again, and will be issued to the most appropriate venue as determined by the licensing authority.

The result is that smokers still have pubs which allow smoking, as long as those pubs also cater to non smokers, many pubs are completely non-smoking, and the government has an additional income stream. Everyone's a winner.