help income support stopped

aml1977

Hi

My father has recently moved back in with my mother although they are not a coupl and have not been for over 15 years ( yet they have remained friends ) My father has a brain injury caused by a car accident when he was 23 resulting in him not being able to work and he is in receipt of income support and DLA high rate I believe.

Since he moved back in with my mum so she and us his children could help him out - hwe was visited by a compliance officer who has now stopped his income support as they say my mum should be supporting them both as she is working.

My mum works 20hrs as a cleaner in a childrens care home and 10 hrs as a cleaner in a school per week and earns aprox £730 per month
how the hell could she support both of them on that amount and why should she have to as they are not a couple !!

this week his income support has been stopped and he has no other income as his DLA is taken up as he has a car for my brother to drive him around.

Any advice would be appreciated

TIA

Oldernotwiser

Are they still married? Does he live as part of the family?

dseventy

aml1977 wrote: »

Hi

My father has recently moved back in with my mother....

Since he moved back in with my mum so she and us his children could help him out -

......

how the hell could she support both of them on that amount and why should she have to as they are not a couple !!

this week his income support has been stopped and he has no other income as his DLA is taken up as he has a car for my brother to drive him around.

Any advice would be appreciated

TIA

Can I just clarify.

The father has moved in the family home so the family can support him?

Yet the family won't support him financially!?

I am confused.

D70

rogerblack

This is a correct decision - you're not entitled to IS, if your partner is in full time work.
There my be a couple of ways round this.
If the husband and wife can prove they are not 'partners' - this will be tricky or impossible.
If the wife has caring responsibilities for the husband, this may also allow a claim for IS.
If he's getting DLA - high rate care - then as I understand it, there is an underlying entitlement to carers allowance if the wife cares for him 35 hours a week, which is not payable as the salary of the wife is too high.
This however would allow IS to be paid.

(You ideally want someone with a clue to check this)

In addition.
Carers allowance is payable if you've got under 100 pounds net income/week coming in, and care for the person over 35 hours a week.
Make sure you properly calculate the allowances.
You take off the income tax, some NI contributions, half of personal pension contributions, and any expenses 'wholely and unavoidably' incurred at work. For example, if you're required to buy uniforms which you have no use for except for work, or travel while at (not to!) work. In addition, half of the money paid to look after the person by someone outside the family.

It is also possible that one of the children could claim CA instead.

aml1977

Its a bit of a mad situation - my dad is nt able to look after himself or should i say live by himself as he forgets tings very easily such as the cooker is on or the door is open etc

we ( his 3 children )all have our own families and dont live there.

My mum and dad have been seperated for 15+ years but never divorced
my mum lives in a 3 bedroomed house paid for by myself and my brother and she agreed to let my dad live there so he would not be on his own.
they do get along well and have remained good friends since they seperated. My dad is 60 now and my mum is 57 so they are in turmoil as she though she was doing a good deed by letting him live there but now he has lost his incapacity benefit and she can not afford to keep him as she doe not earn very much.
Would it be better if he mved back out and claimed for the rent on a property again ??

aml1977

dseventy wrote: »

Can I just clarify.

The father has moved in the family home so the family can support him?

Yet the family won't support him financially!?

I am confused.

D70

mum and dad did'nt live together as they seperated 15yrs agao like I said in my original post
its my mums house, we dont live in there either as we have all left home and have our own families so why should it be down to my mother to look after him when they are not a couple any more?

Hope this clarifies things

aml1977

rogerblack wrote: »

This is a correct decision - you're not entitled to IS, if your partner is in full time work.
There my be a couple of ways round this.
If the husband and wife can prove they are not 'partners' - this will be tricky or impossible.
If the wife has caring responsibilities for the husband, this may also allow a claim for IS.
If he's getting DLA - high rate care - then as I understand it, there is an underlying entitlement to carers allowance if the wife cares for him 35 hours a week, which is not payable as the salary of the wife is too high.
This however would allow IS to be paid.

(You ideally want someone with a clue to check this)

In addition.
Carers allowance is payable if you've got under 100 pounds net income/week coming in, and care for the person over 35 hours a week.
Make sure you properly calculate the allowances.
You take off the income tax, some NI contributions, half of personal pension contributions, and any expenses 'wholely and unavoidably' incurred at work. For example, if you're required to buy uniforms which you have no use for except for work, or travel while at (not to!) work. In addition, half of the money paid to look after the person by someone outside the family.

It is also possible that one of the children could claim CA instead.

Thanks for your response - I appreciate the info

another problem is that he gets confused when he goes to see them about it and tries to explain - he has a caseworker who helps him out on things ike this but he can not get an appointment for 5 weeks so what is he supposed to do in the meantime for living expense?
Its so frustrating
.

Oldernotwiser

aml1977 wrote: »

Its a bit of a mad situation - my dad is nt able to look after himself or should i say live by himself as he forgets tings very easily such as the cooker is on or the door is open etc

we ( his 3 children )all have our own families and dont live there.

My mum and dad have been seperated for 15+ years but never divorced
my mum lives in a 3 bedroomed house paid for by myself and my brother and she agreed to let my dad live there so he would not be on his own.
they do get along well and have remained good friends since they seperated. My dad is 60 now and my mum is 57 so they are in turmoil as she though she was doing a good deed by letting him live there but now he has lost his incapacity benefit and she can not afford to keep him as she doe not earn very much.
Would it be better if he mved back out and claimed for the rent on a property again ??

You said Income Support in your first post. IB isn't means tested, IS is.

aml1977

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

You said Income Support in your first post. IB isn't means tested, IS is.

Sorry I meant IS!!!