valid or not

rcf_2

on the back of my pcn from ppc it states under failure to pay. They will get the info of your details from dvla. I was the driver So why have they taken the details and written to the reg keeper. I know i should ignore but there is a twist the keeper has said it would pay the charge before the keeper realised the scam. I was the driver what do you suggest.

On new notices it states the reg keepers details will be sought is this a mistake on their behalf which would void the charge.

Tilt

Your post is as clear as mud... if you havn't paid just ignore it and tell the RK (if it isn't you) to do the same.

Orford

rcf wrote: »

They will get the info of your details from dvla. I was the driver So why have they taken the details and written to the reg keeper..

Because the dvla can only supply details of the reg keeper, and as the PPC don't know who was driving, the only address they can write to is the reg keeper

rcf wrote: »

I know i should ignore but there is a twist the keeper has said it would pay the charge before the keeper realised the scam. I was the driver what do you suggest.

Do you mean the reg keeper has already paid?

rcf_2

sorry for the confusion if it did go to court im trying technically to say that what they say on the back of the notice is diffrent to the actions taken.

If you drove my wifes car using your own cover of insurance from the car you own. You got a notice inside its after your details (not reg k) this must be technically wrong as they have obtained the reg k details. I know they cant do anything other than that but thats my point it should state we will contact dvla for the keepers details is this any clearer?

Sir_Roger_deLodger

I don't really understand what you mean, but if it's from a private company it is unenforceable whatever the notices say. Just ignore it.

esmerobbo

rcf wrote: »

sorry for the confusion if it did go to court im trying technically to say that what they say on the back of the notice is diffrent to the actions taken.

If you drove my wifes car using your own cover of insurance from the car you own. You got a notice inside its after your details (not reg k) this must be technically wrong as they have obtained the reg k details. I know they cant do anything other than that but thats my point it should state we will contact dvla for the keepers details is this any clearer?

Still don't follow your question, but the DVLA have the keepers details only so that's all they can supply.

Now if its a council ticket even if the keeper never parked the car they would be responsible. If it is a speeding ticket or such from the police, they write to the keeper,who then tells them who was driving.

Regarding private parking tickets, it is contract law that they depend on which is between the driver and the company, it has nothing to do with the keeper. However DVLA in their wisdom have deemed it reasonable to allow these parasites the right to gain the keepers details to try and recover these charges.
However the keeper has the right to just ignore them, as the keeper has no responsibility to any private company!

Hope that answers your question!!:o

The_Slithy_Tove

esmerobbo wrote: »

However DVLA in their wisdom have deemed it reasonable to allow these parasites the right to gain the keepers details to try and recover these charges.

Just to be clear, the DVLA didn't deem it reasonable. That "credit" has to be given to our lovely MPs who legislated that they should give out such details and even made it a specific get-out from the Data Protection Act, which they would otherwise be falling foul of.

Now you know who to compalin to about this shabby practice.

HO87

The_Slithy_Tove wrote: »

Just to be clear, the DVLA didn't deem it reasonable. That "credit" has to be given to our lovely MPs who legislated that they should give out such details and even made it a specific get-out from the Data Protection Act, which they would otherwise be falling foul of.

Now you know who to compalin to about this shabby practice.

That's not entirely accurate. The law - in the shape of s.27 Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 2002 - allows the Secretary of State (delegated to the DVLA) to disclose details of, inter alia, registered keeper details to any person who can demonstrate "reasonable cause". This section allows disclosure by the SoS provided reasonable cause is demonstrated and the required fee is paid.

s. 35 Data Protection Act simply establishes that personal data generally are exempt from the normal provisions if disclosure is required in connection with court proceedings, obtaining legal advice or establishing legal rights. There is no specific exclusion established just for the DVLA, it covers all personal data. Not that this section obliges disclosure but simply allows it if it is made. Many data controllers will insist on a court order before making any disclosure.